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    While watching programs, we can hear a voice describing what is happening. This sometimes means that we cannot hear what is being said by the actors. The voice over is also heard on the recordings.

    I would appreciate any help. It has only started in the last couple of months

    | Wed 22 Oct 2014 21:27:30 #1 |
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    Turn off Audio dialogue - Don't know your unit but think there must be a button on the remote perhaps "AD"?

    | Wed 22 Oct 2014 21:39:08 #2 |
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    Audio Description - (on remote 3 up from bottom 1 right (next to opt+)). It has a speaker icon with a ? mark next to it. Press again to remove the AD icon so you see just English.

    Someone will no doubt have pushed the button accidentally (do you have a cat ? )

    AD works slightly differently to Freesat on HD channels. (Repassac lives in France). On freesat the AD track is a separate audio track to the main Dolby Digital audio. On Freeview-HD the AD data is embedded in the same audio track (It uses aac audio that is capable of including AD in the same data0

    | Wed 22 Oct 2014 22:01:57 #3 |
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    grahamlthompson - 13 hours ago  » 
    AD works slightly differently to Freesat on HD channels. On freesat the AD track is a separate audio track to the main Dolby Digital audio. On Freeview-HD the AD data is embedded in the same audio track (It uses aac audio that is capable of including AD in the same data0

    Are you sure about that Graham ?
    AFAIK with Freeview HD and SD transmissions, the AD audio is still contained in a separate stream to the main audio stream. Only difference to Freesat is that both streams are in AAC format. Main audio uses AAC, whereas AD uses HE-AAC, which is only suitable for lower bit rates.

    | Thu 23 Oct 2014 11:58:15 #4 |
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    raydon - 3 minutes ago  » 

    grahamlthompson - 13 hours ago  » 
    AD works slightly differently to Freesat on HD channels. On freesat the AD track is a separate audio track to the main Dolby Digital audio. On Freeview-HD the AD data is embedded in the same audio track (It uses aac audio that is capable of including AD in the same data0

    Are you sure about that Graham ?
    AFAIK with Freeview HD and SD transmissions, the AD audio is still contained in a separate stream to the main audio stream. Only difference to Freesat is that both streams are in AAC format. Main audio uses AAC, whereas AD uses HE-AAC, which is only suitable for lower bit rates.

    Copying a Dragons Den Episode (which has AD), I will let you know. Never seen more than a single track on other recordings I have transferred (Could be a coincidence that none had AD).

    | Thu 23 Oct 2014 12:20:44 #5 |
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    Here's MediaInfo for an episode of Coast I recorded on my HDR Fox T2
    General
    ID : 16521 (0x4089)
    Complete name : F:\Coast_20140522_1509.ts
    Format : BDAV
    Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
    File size : 1.91 GiB
    Duration : 37mn 33s
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 7 268 Kbps

    Video
    ID : 101 (0x65)
    Menu ID : 17472 (0x4440)
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : High@L4.0
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
    Codec ID : 27
    Duration : 37mn 32s
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate : 25.000 fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Color primaries : BT.709
    Transfer characteristics : BT.709
    Matrix coefficients : BT.709

    Audio #1
    ID : 102 (0x66)
    Menu ID : 17472 (0x4440)
    Format : AAC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile : LC
    Muxing mode : LATM
    Codec ID : 17
    Duration : 37mn 33s
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Delay relative to video : -803ms
    Language : English

    Audio #2
    ID : 106 (0x6A)
    Menu ID : 17472 (0x4440)
    Format : AAC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile : HE-AAC / LC
    Muxing mode : LATM
    Codec ID : 17
    Duration : 37mn 33s
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Channel(s) : 1 channel
    Channel positions : Front: C
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz / 24.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Delay relative to video : -441ms
    Language : English
    Language, more info : Visual impaired commentary

    Text
    ID : 105 (0x69)
    Menu ID : 17472 (0x4440)
    Format : DVB Subtitle
    Codec ID : 6
    Duration : 37mn 29s
    Delay relative to video : 3s 708ms
    Language : English

    | Thu 23 Oct 2014 12:38:52 #6 |
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    You are correct - of course

    Audio details from Dragons Den

    Audio #1
    ID : 102 (0x66)
    Menu ID : 17472 (0x4440)
    Format : AAC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile : LC
    Muxing mode : LATM
    Codec ID : 17
    Duration : 59mn 9s
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Delay relative to video : -808ms
    Language : English

    Audio #2
    ID : 106 (0x6A)
    Menu ID : 17472 (0x4440)
    Format : AAC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile : HE-AAC / LC
    Muxing mode : LATM
    Codec ID : 17
    Duration : 59mn 9s
    Channel(s) : 1 channel
    Channel positions : Front: C
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz / 24.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Delay relative to video : -436ms
    Language : English
    Language, more info : Visual impaired commentary

    Text
    ID : 105 (0x69)
    Menu ID : 17472 (0x4440)
    Format : DVB Subtitle
    Codec ID : 6
    Duration : 59mn 5s
    Delay relative to video : 4s 737ms
    Language : English

    | Thu 23 Oct 2014 12:51:17 #7 |
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    grahamlthompson - 18 hours ago  » 
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    Thanks for putting me right Graham. Have not seen it for a while and when I did must have had a different sort of A.D.

    | Thu 23 Oct 2014 16:39:08 #8 |
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    REPASSAC - 1 hour ago  » 

    grahamlthompson - 18 hours ago  » 
    Audio Description

    Thanks for putting me right Graham. Have not seen it for a while and when I did must have had a different sort of A.D.

    Anno Domini ?

    | Thu 23 Oct 2014 18:04:01 #9 |
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    raydon - 1 hour ago  » 

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    grahamlthompson - 18 hours ago  » 
    Audio Description

    Thanks for putting me right Graham. Have not seen it for a while and when I did must have had a different sort of A.D.

    Anno Domini ?

    Very funny, i'am much amused.

    | Thu 23 Oct 2014 19:16:57 #10 |

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