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How to Play exported .TS file

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    PURBECKFOSSIL

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    Hello again. I have copied out my wife's "HUGE" collection of "Strictly Come Dancing" that is consuming my 9200T. I have them on a 1TB Seagate Backup+ external drive. I have successfully played iplayer files back, in full screen, through the TV on this drive which connects directly to the USB input on my Samsung TV. However, when I play an un-doctored .TS file on this drive from the 9200T, I get more of a square picture with long faces. I have tried the display tools on the Samsung but they can't change what I see. Can I do anything with these files to get them in a better format so I can start grabbing back some of the Humax disk space for my own purposes, Thanks.

    | Mon 10 Mar 2014 20:22:21 #1 |
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    Problem is most likely down to the TV, or more specifically the settings you have on the TV, regarding the aspect ratio. The picture you get on the screen, depends on two independent settings.

    1 The aspect ratio of the overall picture (Usually 16:9)
    2 The shape of the pixels assumed by the display (technically the PAR - Pixel Aspect Ratio), usually square but can be rectangular in both horizontal and vertical orientation.

    Both the above information is contained within the file you are trying to display.

    Not being familiar with the TV, you should check the display options in the TV menus.

    Start by looking for a 16:9 picture aspect ratio and a auto option.

    | Mon 10 Mar 2014 21:18:40 #2 |
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    Had a look at the TV in more detail. When using TV native I have full control on aspect ratio. (Flat screen TV is about 3 years old so pretty up to date). However, when I access the external HDD with the .TS files, I only have 2 choices for picture size, FIT (which looks like 4:3) and ORIGINAL (which shrinks it to an even smaller square size). I have been googling and it appears there are a lot of people over the years having problems filling the TV screen, and all the suggestions are tortuous and I haven't found one thread that seems to work. It just seems weird to me (as a non-video specialist) that the Humax can play the files back through the TV happily but an external copy of same file presents a problem. Anyone got anything to suggest - or do I have to buy the wife her own PVR?

    | Tue 11 Mar 2014 11:05:41 #3 |
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    Can you upload a short clip of an affected ts to a file share site so I can have a look at what you actually have ?

    | Tue 11 Mar 2014 11:40:42 #4 |
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    Hi Graham, I loaded a file on dropbox and replied via email. Just checking if you got the details?

    | Thu 13 Mar 2014 16:19:48 #5 |
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    Not got anything. Either PM me or post the link in this thread, someone else may have a look as well.

    | Thu 13 Mar 2014 16:21:59 #6 |
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    Here is a link to dropbox with a 2 min .TS file. Hope you like Kojak!

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/78294018/20140311%201451%20Kojak.ts

    | Thu 13 Mar 2014 16:26:15 #7 |
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    It's a pillarbox 4:3 format. Should play in a 16:9 window with black borders each side.

    This works fine on my PC using Splash Media Player and VLC.

    Clip Details

    General
    ID : 24640 (0x6040)
    Complete name : C:\Users\Graham\Downloads\20140311 1451 Kojak.ts
    Format : MPEG-TS
    File size : 9.93 MiB
    Duration : 51s 988ms
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 1 598 Kbps

    Video
    ID : 601 (0x259)
    Menu ID : 28032 (0x6D80)
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format version : Version 2
    Format profile : Main@Main
    Format settings, BVOP : Yes
    Format settings, Matrix : Custom
    Format settings, GOP : Variable
    Codec ID : 2
    Duration : 50s 560ms
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 1 390 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate : 15.0 Mbps
    Width : 544 pixels
    Height : 576 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 4:3
    Active Format Description : Pillarbox 4:3 image

    Frame rate : 25.000 fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Interlaced
    Scan order : Top Field First
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.177
    Stream size : 8.38 MiB (84%)

    Audio
    ID : 602 (0x25A)
    Menu ID : 28032 (0x6D80)
    Format : MPEG Audio
    Format version : Version 1
    Format profile : Layer 2
    Mode : Joint stereo
    Codec ID : 4
    Duration : 51s 120ms
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 128 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Delay relative to video : 29ms
    Stream size : 799 KiB (8%)
    Language : English

    Text
    ID : 603 (0x25B)
    Menu ID : 28032 (0x6D80)
    Format : DVB Subtitle
    Codec ID : 6
    Duration : 49s 574ms
    Delay relative to video : 3s 592ms
    Language : English

    Menu
    ID : 1037 (0x40D)
    Menu ID : 28032 (0x6D80)
    Duration : 51s 988ms
    List : 601 (0x259) (MPEG Video) / 602 (0x25A) (MPEG Audio, English) / 604 (0x25C) (MPEG Audio) / 603 (0x25B) (DVB Subtitle, English) / 8000 (0x1F40) ()
    Language : / English / / English

    What are the available format settings on the TV ?

    | Thu 13 Mar 2014 17:26:27 #8 |
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    Thanks for looking at it. I agree with what you say.

    BUT this was recorded on my Humax and plays back on the TV in 16:9 full screen when using the Humax replay. So, why can't I play it back in the same manner when I export it to an external drive.

    | Thu 13 Mar 2014 17:31:54 #9 |
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    Screen Grab

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    | Thu 13 Mar 2014 17:32:48 #10 |

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