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    P30jmp

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    Just switched from Sky where I had an RF out to an upstairs TV, operating it via a spare remote and a magic Eye.

    So I now have an HDR1000s with scart connection to a Mercury RF modulator, then coax upstairs. So I can successfully receive the signal upstairs. What I can't get to work is my old magic eye to control the box.

    Has anyone found a way to do this???

    | Tue 14 Feb 2017 21:20:05 #1 |
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    Easiest way is to replace the Mercury RF modulator with a Triax Tri Link unit. This retransmits the magic eye generated remote control signals to a number of small infra red transmitters.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/TRI-LINK-Control-Freesat-Freeview-around/dp/B002R634DU/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487147596&sr=8-1-fkmr1&keywords=Triax+tri+link+unit

    Alternatively use a seperate infra red wireless repeater

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Electronics-Photo/Marmitek-Powermid-XL-PowerMid-infrared-extender-set/B000GIXH42/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487147694&sr=8-1&keywords=powermid+xl+remote+extender

    If you can wire a CAT6 network cable then the Rolls Royce solution giving High Definition Videa and Stereo Audio is a single cable pair of HD baluns with built in remote Infra Red control.

    I use one of these and it works a dream.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Neet-HDMI-Extender-Single-Control-x/dp/B013T5IQH6/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1487147987&sr=8-5&keywords=neet+hdmi+splitter+with+Ir

    | Wed 15 Feb 2017 8:40:17 #2 |
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    Thanks, the second option looks to be an easy fix.

    With the first option, I should have mentioned that I did put a Labgear Amplifier in the loft (circa 8 years ago) which distributes out to the bedrooms. I'm not sure how that differs from the Triax Tri Link?

    Many things I look at (such as the Triax Tri Link) show it being fed from the RF2 on the STB (as with my old Sky setup), but on my Humax HDR1000S, there is of course no RF2, just a Scart. I'm guessing (but don't know) that this is the issue?

    Cheers

    | Wed 15 Feb 2017 10:22:56 #3 |
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    P30jmp - 1 hour ago  » 
    Thanks, the second option looks to be an easy fix.
    With the first option, I should have mentioned that I did put a Labgear Amplifier in the loft (circa 8 years ago) which distributes out to the bedrooms. I'm not sure how that differs from the Triax Tri Link?
    Many things I look at (such as the Triax Tri Link) show it being fed from the RF2 on the STB (as with my old Sky setup), but on my Humax HDR1000S, there is of course no RF2, just a Scart. I'm guessing (but don't know) that this is the issue?
    Cheers

    The Triax tri link is a replacement for the mercury modulator, nothing to do with the loft distribution amplifier. I presume you have the terrestrial aerial feed into the modulator to add Freeview to the analogue modulator channel. The Tri-Link connects in the same way. You are looking at a diagram with a Sky box present in the system which I presume you no longer have.

    Option 3 will vastly improve the picture quality, you can lose the modulator and just use a splitter to send Freeview to the remote TV.

    | Wed 15 Feb 2017 12:06:52 #4 |
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    I've got you...the Triax Tri would directly replace the mercury modulator. The only think I'm unsure about is the connection from my HDR1000S to the Triax. On a Sky setup it would obviously be via the RF2...but on the Humax???

    Would is be via a scart as I currently have for the Mercury modulator?

    If you happened to know the answer to that, it would be really useful and I think I'd probably go down that route.

    | Wed 15 Feb 2017 12:52:01 #5 |
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    P30jmp - 23 seconds ago  » 
    I've got you...the Triax Tri would directly replace the mercury modulator. The only think I'm unsure about is the connection from my HDR1000S to the Triax. On a Sky setup it would obviously be via the RF2...but on the Humax???
    Would is be via a scart as I currently have for the Mercury modulator?
    If you happened to know the answer to that, it would be really useful and I think I'd probably go down that route.

    You are confusing the video and audio link to the modulator (which is internal using a Sky Box) With the RF (Radio Frequency) connections.

    Brief description of how it all works.

    The Mercury modulator and the one in a Sky Box take a composite video and audio input and modulate a UHF carrier of your choice (21 - 68) to create a mono sound analogue PAL colour TV channel which you tune to using the analogue tuning capability of your remote TV's to watch remotely.

    To also add the digital DVB-T/T2 Freeview channels the Modulator has a RF in (as does the Sky box). This purely serves to add these channels to the modulator output along with the analogue channel. These you use your remote TV digital tuning capability to watch. The Sky box has an internal UHF splitter to provide two outputs RF1 out to feed your local TV and RF2 out to feed the remote kit (in your case a Skylink compatible distribution amp usually in the loft.

    The UHF channel you choose for the modulator output must not conflict with the UHF channels your transmitter uses for it's digital multiplexes.

    The Sky box has two additional capabilities, a 9V DC output (to power magic eyes) and a VHF demodulator which demodulates the remote commands from magic eyes and passes the remote control directly to the box. The Magic Eyes modulate a VHF carrier from infra red which is sent back down the uplink coax to the VHF demodulator in the box.

    The Triax Trilink adds these capabilities but lacking a splitter you need to split your aerial feed to your local TV and it's RF input.

    It also adds Infra Red emitters which recreate the infra red signals produced by the remotes pointing at the eyes to allow magic eyes to control non sky kit.

    There is one expensive option I didn't mention. You can replace the modulator with a digital modulator which creates a DVB-T High Definition channel that most HD remote TV's can tune. You would have to make other arrangements for remote control.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Edision-HDMI-Modulator-Full-Distribution/dp/B00KBXKJ2A/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487164496&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Edivision+digital+modulator

    | Wed 15 Feb 2017 13:15:12 #6 |
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    You've just increased my understanding 10 fold...thanks for taking the time to comment. I'll go for the Triax I think...
    Cheers!

    | Wed 15 Feb 2017 13:30:09 #7 |

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