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    I have been increasingly using my Foxsat box for recording movies as the 1010s picture is a lot less sharp. Is there something I can do to improve the 1010s picture quality?

    | Sun 8 Dec 2013 12:22:38 #1 |
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    That's very strange the G2 boxes produce very sharp pictures (Slightly better than the Foxsats).

    Check in Settings/Picture and Sound you have Resolution set to 1080i or 1080p.

    | Sun 8 Dec 2013 12:46:40 #2 |
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    It's the same with my HB-1000S. Resolution set to 1080i.

    | Sun 8 Dec 2013 14:40:21 #3 |
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    JamesB - 1 minute ago  » 
    It's the same with my HB-1000S. Resolution set to 1080i.

    How connected HDMI? What TV?

    | Sun 8 Dec 2013 14:42:08 #4 |
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    JamesB - 30 minutes ago  » 
    It's the same with my HB-1000S. Resolution set to 1080i.

    Compared to a Foxsat-hdr like the OP ?

    | Sun 8 Dec 2013 15:11:49 #5 |
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    The TV is a 2012 Samsung UE32ES5500, Picture Mode is set to Movie for all inputs (HDR-2000T, YouView, and the HB-1000S. The picture quality is excellent on the Freeview boxes, and on the TV's own Freeview tuner. This did make me wonder if maybe it's just down to a difference in picture between DTT and Freesat?

    The HB-1000S is connected to the TV by HDMI. The satellite feed is an ancient Sky mini-dish.

    | Sun 8 Dec 2013 15:13:13 #6 |
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    JamesB - 7 minutes ago  » 
    ....... This did make me wonder if maybe it's just down to a difference in picture between DTT and Freesat?
    The HB-1000S is connected to the TV by HDMI. The satellite feed is an ancient Sky mini-dish.

    The actual picture quality can vary by channel with some commercial broadcasters using low bit rates to economise and fit more channels onto a transponder. Compare the quality on say BBC HD which should be about the same as DTT.

    | Sun 8 Dec 2013 15:25:15 #7 |
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    Yes, comparing the same HD channel.

    | Sun 8 Dec 2013 15:48:17 #8 |
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    JamesB - 32 minutes ago  » 
    The TV is a 2012 Samsung UE32ES5500, Picture Mode is set to Movie for all inputs (HDR-2000T, YouView, and the HB-1000S. The picture quality is excellent on the Freeview boxes, and on the TV's own Freeview tuner. This did make me wonder if maybe it's just down to a difference in picture between DTT and Freesat?
    The HB-1000S is connected to the TV by HDMI. The satellite feed is an ancient Sky mini-dish.

    Channel 5 is dire on satellite, the result of channel 5 only using a single transponder for the full complement of channels.

    Freeview-HD is able to use 1080p25 for content produced in progressive format, because the Freeview specification allowed for this from day one. This can produce better pictures for some content.

    Satellite receivers in general don't support progressive signals so progressive source signals have to be interlaced and transmitted as 1080i.

    Your TV will de-interlace 1080i for display and therefore the TV itself can effect how interlaced signals look compared to native progressive content.

    I also think that the BBC HD channels do look a bit better from the HDR FOX T2 compared to the same source on a satellite box, most likely down to the use of progressive transmission.

    This of course should not affect the picture quality comparing a Foxsat-HDR with a <freetime> box.

    Most TV's allow different settings for each input. I would investigate using different settings for the HB1000s port. In general start by turning off so called picture enhancing options like Noise Reduction, Movie Mode etc.

    | Sun 8 Dec 2013 15:56:14 #9 |
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    JamesB - 35 minutes ago  » 
    The TV is a 2012 Samsung UE32ES5500, Picture Mode is set to Movie for all inputs (HDR-2000T, YouView, and the HB-1000S. The picture quality is excellent on the Freeview boxes, and on the TV's own Freeview tuner. This did make me wonder if maybe it's just down to a difference in picture between DTT and Freesat?
    The HB-1000S is connected to the TV by HDMI. The satellite feed is an ancient Sky mini-dish.

    I did notice on my 2009 samsung that with SD the TVs internal Freeview tuner looked slightly better quality than SD on some identical satellite channels.
    Rather than just relying on the picture modes alone, have you tried calibrating your tv to get the best out of the device connected to that particular HDMI input?

    | Sun 8 Dec 2013 16:03:33 #10 |

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