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    Jilly M

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    I wonder if anyone can shed any light on a problem? I have a Humax FVP-5000T, bought just before Christmas. Everything seems fine except that every evening at 7.10pm the TV screen flicks over to the HDMI input for the Humax. The box doesn’t actually come on and nothing is scheduled to record at that time!
    Any ideas as to why this might be happening and how to stop it gratefully received!!
    There must be an explanation but I can’t find it!

    Fri 31 Jan 2020 0:10:09 #1 |
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    18 minutes before the start of a recording the HDMI is activated. This is a 'feature' of Humax freeview HD models.
    Is the actual time 7:12pm (and about 20 seconds) and have you got something set to record at 7:30pm each evening? Perhaps Coronation Street or Celebrity Come Dine with Me?

    Fri 31 Jan 2020 10:15:49 #2 |
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    It may be that you can stop this by turning off TV Power Control in the HDMI-CEC section of System Settings.

    Fri 31 Jan 2020 10:27:50 #3 |
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    Thanks so much for the explanation guys! Much appreciated!

    Fri 31 Jan 2020 19:22:09 #4 |
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    But has anything said solved your problem?

    Sat 1 Feb 2020 9:32:49 #5 |
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    Haha! No Trev! But now I know what’s causing it I can live with it! I did try A1944’s idea but it didn’t have any effect. Do you have any other ideas?

    Sat 1 Feb 2020 18:49:15 #6 |
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    Jilly M - 9 mins ago  » 
    Haha! No Trev! But now I know what’s causing it I can live with it! I did try A1944’s idea but it didn’t have any effect. Do you have any other ideas?

    Here's another way, Connect this to either end of the HDMI cable that connects the box to the TV. Your problem is very common, hence the adaptor.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/LINDY-HDMI-Less-Adapter-Female-Black/dp/B00DL48KVI

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    Jilly M - 9 mins ago  » 
    Haha! No Trev! But now I know what’s causing it I can live with it! I did try A1944’s idea but it didn’t have any effect. Do you have any other ideas?

    Here's another way, Connect this to either end of the HDMI cable that connects the box to the TV. Your problem is very common, hence the adaptor.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/LINDY-HDMI-Less-Adapter-Female-Black/dp/B00DL48KVI

    Thanks Graham sounds like an easy fix! Off to place an order!

    Sat 1 Feb 2020 20:45:31 #8 |
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    Jilly M - 47 mins ago  » 

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    Jilly M - 9 mins ago  » 
    Haha! No Trev! But now I know what’s causing it I can live with it! I did try A1944’s idea but it didn’t have any effect. Do you have any other ideas?

    Here's another way, Connect this to either end of the HDMI cable that connects the box to the TV. Your problem is very common, hence the adaptor.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/LINDY-HDMI-Less-Adapter-Female-Black/dp/B00DL48KVI

    Thanks Graham sounds like an easy fix! Off to place an order!

    Confident it will work. If it does not you can at least you can replace it for free.

    Bit of background info.

    The old fashioned way of auto selecting analogue scart inputs relies on a single pin in a scart cable. This works fine.

    As you may guess the introduction of HD digital HDMI interconnects required a new way of providing a similar system.

    Putting it mildly the replacement system (CEC) was so badly defined that individual makers came up with there own variation such that different makers came up with different variants that worked fine with equipment from the same makers, they even came with up with different names.

    https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/hdmi-cec-known-as-by-manufacturer-2

    Then the capability was added that allowed the system to power off kit not required.

    Imagine you are using a TV to listen to a radio recording from your PVR. Elect to listen to the radio. The CEC system turned off the TV you were using to actually listening to the radio. Idiotic or what

    At this point simply removing CEC as per the adaptor is a fix.

    This won't affect you. However the system was extended to include the capability to return the audio from a connected TV to allow the much superior audio experience you can get from AV receiver with a 5.1 or more connected speakers.

    This is known as ARC, Audio return Channel. Problem is is doesn't work unless HDMI control is enabled. So the above adaptor would not work.

    The latest version of ARC allows a suitable TV to return the so called lossless audio versions like DTS Master-HD which can sound incredible (Just like the audio if you have watched a movie in a recent cinema with digital audio)

    ARC is now extended (E-ARC) to allow lossless audio back to a suitable AVR receiver ) My 2019 LG OLED TV and older has e-arc) as does my older Denon receiver. No need for it because the kit I have directly connected has the full audio and Video capability it needs to provide the TV with 4K-HDR video.

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    grahamlthompson - 19 hours ago  » 

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    Jilly M - 9 mins ago  » 
    Haha! No Trev! But now I know what’s causing it I can live with it! I did try A1944’s idea but it didn’t have any effect. Do you have any other ideas?

    Here's another way, Connect this to either end of the HDMI cable that connects the box to the TV. Your problem is very common, hence the adaptor.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/LINDY-HDMI-Less-Adapter-Female-Black/dp/B00DL48KVI

    Thanks Graham sounds like an easy fix! Off to place an order!

    Confident it will work. If it does not you can at least you can replace it for free.
    Bit of background info.
    The old fashioned way of auto selecting analogue scart inputs relies on a single pin in a scart cable. This works fine.
    As you may guess the introduction of HD digital HDMI interconnects required a new way of providing a similar system.
    Putting it mildly the replacement system (CEC) was so badly defined that individual makers came up with there own variation such that different makers came up with different variants that worked fine with equipment from the same makers, they even came with up with different names.
    https://myhumax.org/forum/topic/hdmi-cec-known-as-by-manufacturer-2
    Then the capability was added that allowed the system to power off kit not required.
    Imagine you are using a TV to listen to a radio recording from your PVR. Elect to listen to the radio. The CEC system turned off the TV you were using to actually listening to the radio. Idiotic or what
    At this point simply removing CEC as per the adaptor is a fix.
    This won't affect you. However the system was extended to include the capability to return the audio from a connected TV to allow the much superior audio experience you can get from AV receiver with a 5.1 or more connected speakers.
    This is known as ARC, Audio return Channel. Problem is is doesn't work unless HDMI control is enabled. So the above adaptor would not work.
    The latest version of ARC allows a suitable TV to return the so called lossless audio versions like DTS Master-HD which can sound incredible (Just like the audio if you have watched a movie in a recent cinema with digital audio)
    ARC is now extended (E-ARC) to allow lossless audio back to a suitable AVR receiver ) My 2019 LG OLED TV and older has e-arc) as does my older Denon receiver. No need for it because the kit I have directly connected has the full audio and Video capability it needs to provide the TV with 4K-HDR video.

    Erm......thanks...I think! I believe you!

    Sun 2 Feb 2020 17:49:16 #10 |

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