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    rjsdavis - 13 hours ago  » 

    1 - Are we suggesting that I need to encompass that entire list of IP addresses within the router, to hopefully enable the Humax catch-up services to bypass the VPN?

    If you want to experiment and your router will allow you to specify a range of IP Addresses then my guess is the ones most likely to be involved in blocking access for iPlayer are those associated with the BBC. You could try '212.58.224.0 - 212.58.255.255' and see if it helps.

    | Mon 20 Jan 2020 14:54:11 #41 |
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    Pollensa1946 - 5 hours ago  »  I'm struggling to understand why anyone in a domestic environment needs to run a VPN permanently for the entire network.

    I was wondering that as well.

    | Mon 20 Jan 2020 15:09:06 #42 |
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    Personal choice, to avoid isp download restrictions, user is a spy, stop isp snooping, consume loads of porn? The reasons are numerous

    | Mon 20 Jan 2020 15:30:21 #43 |
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    SSThing - 35 mins ago  » 
    Personal choice, to avoid isp download restrictions, user is a spy, stop isp snooping, consume loads of porn? The reasons are numerous

    I spent 30+ years working in IT (before it was even called that), everything from writing Assembler to managing a world-wide roll-out. So I understand perfectly the reasons why you might employ a VPN on a specific device or for a specific purpose, but permanently on the entire network...no.

    | Mon 20 Jan 2020 16:09:05 #44 |
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    Pollensa1946 - 6 hours ago  » 
    I'm struggling to understand why anyone in a domestic environment needs to run a VPN permanently for the entire network.

    Not that it's relevant to the thread, and it should be rather obvious, but:

    1 - Because NordVPN offer protection via their downloadable app to a limited amount of devices. If it is active within the router, all connected devices are protected by default. Basic economics.

    2 - Because I've seen my details hacked on numerous insecure websites over the years, which means my data is out there. I'll do what I can to protect my home network and the traffic to and from it as far as I can.

    3 - It encrypts email traffic.

    4 - It prevents scum like Google and Apple from monitoring my internet and web-browsing activity and gathering data about our usage.

    5 - If you'd been following the thread, the whole object of it is *not* to have it protecting all traffic across the entire network. The point of this thread is to try to fix a specific streaming problem. If you have a suggestion or solution, I'm all ears.

    | Mon 20 Jan 2020 16:31:01 #45 |
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    Martin Liddle - 1 hour ago  » 

    rjsdavis - 13 hours ago  » 
    1 - Are we suggesting that I need to encompass that entire list of IP addresses within the router, to hopefully enable the Humax catch-up services to bypass the VPN?

    If you want to experiment and your router will allow you to specify a range of IP Addresses then my guess is the ones most likely to be involved in blocking access for iPlayer are those associated with the BBC. You could try '212.58.224.0 - 212.58.255.255' and see if it helps.

    Ok, thanks for the explanation.

    I'll see if I can work out how to do this (free up a range) and see if it works.

    | Mon 20 Jan 2020 16:33:04 #46 |
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    I wonder - just wonder whether you can use firewall rules to bypass the VPN. I have just looked at my Draytek 2862 and the knowledge base and that might just be possible. To force a specific ip address to have direct access to the WAN rather than the VPN. If I'm talking rubbish please feel free to ignore!!!!

    | Mon 20 Jan 2020 16:55:43 #47 |
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    rjsdavis - 24 mins ago  » ...If you'd been following the thread, the whole object of it is *not* to have it protecting all traffic across the entire network. The point of this thread is to try to fix a specific streaming problem. If you have a suggestion or solution, I'm all ears.

    Oh I've been following the thread and if you had read my post #44 you would have appreciated exactly that I fully understand. However, with your attitude, I'm out.

    | Mon 20 Jan 2020 16:58:22 #48 |
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    Pollensa1946 - 2 hours ago  » 

    rjsdavis - 24 mins ago  » ...If you'd been following the thread, the whole object of it is *not* to have it protecting all traffic across the entire network. The point of this thread is to try to fix a specific streaming problem. If you have a suggestion or solution, I'm all ears.

    Oh I've been following the thread and if you had read my post #44 you would have appreciated exactly that I fully understand. However, with your attitude, I'm out.

    Oddly, the post at #44 shows the exact opposite.

    With respect, that's great. You weren't contributing anything to solving the problem anyway - merely critiquing why a VPN would be used in the "private environment" in any event. You asked your question, you got an answer.

    Good luck to you x

    | Mon 20 Jan 2020 19:26:23 #49 |
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    GrahamRHK - 2 hours ago  » 
    I wonder - just wonder whether you can use firewall rules to bypass the VPN. I have just looked at my Draytek 2862 and the knowledge base and that might just be possible. To force a specific ip address to have direct access to the WAN rather than the VPN. If I'm talking rubbish please feel free to ignore!!!!

    No, you're not talking rubbish. That's exactly where I have been heading with the help of Draytek.

    They have a route policy configuration page under the "Routing" tab. A tech from there spent some time helping me configure three separate routing policies for HTTP/HTTPS & DNS (all with the same URL's in the policy), but because I was working with URL's at that stage, and not IP addresses, it didn't work.

    For example, in the routing policy that is already live, I have:

    bbc.co.uk
    itv.com
    channel5.com

    etc etc

    But because the Humax app doesn't seem to actually go to any of these channel URL's to fetch a stream, it doesn't work.

    Well, it doesn't work. Exactly why it doesn't work is just a theory at the moment, but the idea that the Humax goes elsewhere to fetch the streams does fit the logic!

    | Mon 20 Jan 2020 19:30:31 #50 |

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