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Playing FVP4000T files on an FVP5000T

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    Yes, Digital Transmission Content Protection. The tv is a Toshiba smart tv so I think it shouldn't be showing the message. I did have the 5000T connected to a scart input through a converter for a while; maybe it didn't like that.

    | Sun 28 Jul 2019 10:45:24 #11 |
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    With both units on and the 5000T selected on the tv input, going into the Media section brings up the 4000T in the media list and the files on it are accessible and will play.
    Doing this the other way round, the Media section on the 4000T doesn't show the 5000T in the list so no access to the files.

    This seems strange to me. AFAIK both boxes run the same software. Indeed my 5000T thinks it is a 4000T. (Network check for software update). If it works one way, why not the other? Indeed if Graham T is correct that the server box does the decryption - which I guess it must because the encryption key is hard coded into server. Why can one not play 5000T recordings on a FOX-T2 over DLNA as the source server would decrypt the files when playing. I know this has been discussed many time here and elsewhere but it would be handy to know what is possible and what is not.

    | Mon 29 Jul 2019 17:33:42 #12 |
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    batteryman - 1 day ago  » 
    Yes, Digital Transmission Content Protection. The tv is a Toshiba smart tv so I think it shouldn't be showing the message. I did have the 5000T connected to a scart input through a converter for a while; maybe it didn't like that.

    The scart was the culprit because the system would be thinking you were trying to copy from one device to another.

    | Mon 29 Jul 2019 18:00:50 #13 |
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    GrahamRHK - 37 mins ago  » 
    This seems strange to me. AFAIK both boxes run the same software. Indeed my 5000T thinks it is a 4000T. (Network check for software update). If it works one way, why not the other?

    Best guess is that the 5000T doesn't support DTCP for the DLNA server. Has anybody asked Humax about this to establish whether this is a deliberate change or some sort of bug? Note that you can play SD content from a 5000T on an HDR-FOX T2 but not HD.

    | Mon 29 Jul 2019 18:15:32 #14 |
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    As I said previously, both boxes are running software version 1.03.51. The units are networked via wifi. The 5000T has its original 1tb disk; the 4000T has been upgraded from 500gb to 1.5tb using the WD Green disk from a Sky box, tested before installing.

    I'm leaving this query now, more important stuff to do - the dreaded DIY!

    | Mon 29 Jul 2019 18:55:25 #15 |
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    GrahamRHK - 1 hour ago  » 

    With both units on and the 5000T selected on the tv input, going into the Media section brings up the 4000T in the media list and the files on it are accessible and will play.
    Doing this the other way round, the Media section on the 4000T doesn't show the 5000T in the list so no access to the files.

    This seems strange to me. AFAIK both boxes run the same software. Indeed my 5000T thinks it is a 4000T. (Network check for software update). If it works one way, why not the other? Indeed if Graham T is correct that the server box does the decryption - which I guess it must because the encryption key is hard coded into server. Why can one not play 5000T recordings on a FOX-T2 over DLNA as the source server would decrypt the files when playing. I know this has been discussed many time here and elsewhere but it would be handy to know what is possible and what is not.

    The server doesn't do the decryption it passes the required key to the client allowing viewing of the encrypted stream.

    | Mon 29 Jul 2019 19:29:12 #16 |
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    With both units on and the 5000T selected on the tv input, going into the Media section brings up the 4000T in the media list and the files on it are accessible and will play.
    Doing this the other way round, the Media section on the 4000T doesn't show the 5000T in the list so no access to the files.

    Is it possible that the media server is not running on the 5000T? I offer that suggestion as you say that you can't see the device - rather than that you can't see files on the device. I guess you know how to control the media server from settings - there is a function there to check that the server is running correctly

    | Tue 30 Jul 2019 12:13:34 #17 |
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    The server doesn't do the decryption it passes the required key to the client allowing viewing of the encrypted stream.

    Thank you for that succinct explanation of how DTCP works over DLNA - Graham T.. So are there any flavours of the custom software for FOX-T2 that enable DTCP functionality? I have trawled the HummyTV forum in all its detail but missed any obvious detail in this respect. I would be very interested to know.

    | Tue 30 Jul 2019 12:20:26 #18 |
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    Aha, I'll check server settings now my shower is grouted. I'll post again this afternoon.

    | Tue 30 Jul 2019 12:34:50 #19 |
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    Spot on Graham, in my haste to insall the 5000T I didn't enable the server. With it switched on, both machines will find and play HD video files from the other.

    | Tue 30 Jul 2019 13:07:30 #20 |

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