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    grahamlthompson
    

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    Get yourself a free Skydrive Account. You can use this to store important files off your computer. You have a public area you can share files with anyone, all you have to do is post the link.

    I have Windows 7

    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/skydrive/download

    All you have to do is upload the files to the public area and post the links.

    Here's an example that relates to files I maintain for the Foxsat-hdr detailed in a thread in this forum.

    https://skydrive.live.com/?mkt=en-GB#cid=1698F958AF9ACDA4&id=1698F958AF9ACDA4%21105

    | Thu 30 Jan 2014 22:46:27 #11 |
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    Graham, OK, think I have uploaded 2 pictures, one Landscape & one Portrait to this link:-
    https://skydrive.live.com/#cid=9BAE39D38B5CB3EE&id=9BAE39D38B5CB3EE%21121
    These were examples of pictures that are giving problems.
    The portrait item comes out on its side playing via the HDR & on CD via the CD player. The Landscape item when I turned it through 90 degrees on the computer & saved to a USB still showed in the correct manner.
    Hope you can help

    | Fri 31 Jan 2014 10:02:05 #12 |
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    johnooooo - 10 minutes ago  » 
    Graham, OK, think I have uploaded 2 pictures, one Landscape & one Portrait to this link:-
    https://skydrive.live.com/#cid=9BAE39D38B5CB3EE&id=9BAE39D38B5CB3EE%21121
    These were examples of pictures that are giving problems.
    The portrait item comes out on its side playing via the HDR & on CD via the CD player. The Landscape item when I turned it through 90 degrees on the computer & saved to a USB still showed in the correct manner.
    Hope you can help

    Your link doesn't work.

    This Item does not exist or is no longer available. Did you put them in a public area ?

    | Fri 31 Jan 2014 10:13:15 #13 |
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    johnooooo - 14 minutes ago  » 
    The Landscape item when I turned it through 90 degrees on the computer & saved to a USB still showed in the correct manner.

    Turning a jpeg by 90 degrees should be achievable by 2 very different methods.
    One method is for the PC to recompress the picture so that it is literally rotated through 90 degrees. The other method is for the PC to update the Exif orientation attribute. The latter is normally preferable as there is never any quality loss, while with the former there may be some quality loss.

    I suspect that the Humax does not recognise the Exif orientation attribute.

    By the way the same thing happens with my digital cameras and the Humax jpeg display.

    | Fri 31 Jan 2014 10:29:24 #14 |
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    Graham, Sorry about that Think I put them in the wrong area.
    Have now redone into public area, link is:-
    https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=9BAE39D38B5CB3EE&id=9BAE39D38B5CB3EE%21121#cid=9BAE39D38B5CB3EE&id=9BAE39D38B5CB3EE%21122
    These were examples of pictures that are giving problems.
    The portrait item comes out on its side playing via the HDR & on CD via the CD player. The Landscape item when I turned it through 90 degrees on the computer & saved to a USB still showed in the correct manner.
    Hope you can help

    | Fri 31 Jan 2014 13:14:33 #15 |
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    Looking at the Exif metadata for the 'portrait' photo it is the orientation attribute which is triggering your PC photo viewer to rotate the picture. As the Humax is not using this you would need to rotate the actual picture and not just the metadata.

    EXIF — this group of metadata is encoded in 22,168 bytes (21.6k)

    Exif Image Size 2,048 × 1,536
    Image Description
    Y Cb Cr Positioning Co-sited
    Exposure Time 1/40
    F Number 3.50
    Exposure Program Program AE
    ISO 200
    Exif Version 0221
    Date/Time Original 2013:07:02 06:48:05
    6 months, 28 days, 21 hours, 37 minutes, 22 seconds ago
    Create Date 2013:07:02 06:48:05
    6 months, 28 days, 21 hours, 37 minutes, 22 seconds ago
    Components Configuration Y, Cb, Cr, -
    Compressed Bits Per Pixel 4
    Exposure Compensation 0
    Max Aperture Value 3.5
    Metering Mode Multi-segment
    Light Source Unknown
    Flash Off, Did not fire
    Focal Length 6.3 mm
    Exposure Mode Auto
    Maker Note Sony (9,916 bytes binary data)
    Flashpix Version 0100
    Color Space sRGB
    Interoperability Index R98 - DCF basic file (sRGB)
    Interoperability Version 0100
    File Source Digital Camera
    Scene Type Directly photographed
    Custom Rendered Normal
    White Balance Auto
    Scene Capture Type Standard
    Contrast Normal
    Saturation Normal
    Sharpness Normal
    Print Image Matching PrintIM%000300%00%00%02%00%02%00%01%00%00%00%01%01%01%00%00%00
    Compression JPEG (old-style)
    Make SONY
    Camera Model Name DSC-H20
    Orientation Rotate 90 CW
    Modify Date 2013:07:02 06:48:05
    6 months, 28 days, 21 hours, 37 minutes, 22 seconds ago
    Resolution 72 pixels/inch
    Thumbnail Length 11,340

    | Fri 31 Jan 2014 13:30:21 #16 |
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    There's more going on here than meets the eye

    Loaded your original clips onto a usb stick,

    Sony Bravia shows correct orientation and aspect ratio.

    HDR1000s and HDR FOX T2 shows both clips in landscape format.

    Windows Explorer (7) (set to display thumbnails) shows portrait image as a landscape image. Right clicking and choosing rotate followed by recopying the images to usb corrects the problem.

    Next I cropped the images to 1920 x 1080 using photoshop.

    This for the landscape image should show a full screen image that exactly fits the TV (if overscan is turned off).

    The TV displays this perfectly. Both the Humax boxes resample the image downward so it does not fit the display.

    Next cropped the landscape image to 16cm x 9cm with an unspecified resolution (resulting in a 2048 x 1152 pixel image).

    Again the TV shows a perfect full screen image, both the Humax boxes again do not produce a full screen 1920 x 1080 image.

    Files here so you can see what I mean

    https://www.adrive.com/public/mq6JaM/Photos.zip

    | Fri 31 Jan 2014 14:28:44 #17 |
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    Graham,
    Thanks, You state that in Windows 7 you had to rotate the picture to get it into correct orientation, this appears strange as on my computer, using windows 7 it shows correctly, with View set to Large icons.
    Also have you any ideas on how to get Portrait pictures to show correctly on the HDR & also the same problem exists when I view from a CD?
    Or is there some non compatibility between Windows 7/The HDR/My CD Player?
    Also must say thanks for the time you have spent on the problem.

    | Fri 31 Jan 2014 15:09:06 #18 |
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    AS I said once I right clicked on the image using windows explorer it then displayed correctly. Here's your original images as downloaded.

    

    By far the best way to show off your photographs is to use a video editing programme to create a High Definition 16:9 mp4 file which will play as a file from usb. You can create your own motion effects, add transistions and your own music very easily. If you want to zip up a few photos I knock up a simple example in a few minutes. Windows Movie Maker could do this but it's not the best software to do this by a million miles.

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    | Fri 31 Jan 2014 15:29:09 #19 |
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    Edit: Comment removed as I've noticed another inconsistancy and wish to analyse it.

    | Fri 31 Jan 2014 15:43:48 #20 |

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