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    johnooooo
    

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    Perhaps I'm confusing thinks as I'm not totally up to this technology so please bear with me!
    I have just done two trials
    1 Turned some Portrait pictures on windows 7 counter clockwise
    D/Loaded to USB
    Viewed on HDR
    The portrait pictures came out on their side ie out of phase by 90 degrees.
    2 Put portrait pictures back to correct orientation on windows 7
    Downloaded to USB
    Viewed on HDR
    Portrait pictures still came out on side.

    So it seems that there is no way of getting portrait pictures on windows 7 to show correctly on the HDR, correct?

    | Fri 31 Jan 2014 16:27:11 #21 |
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    I had no issues at all once I rotated it. Have you downloaded your original (now rotated) from the link I posted ?

    In addition stick this short video onto a usb stick and play it back on your box.

    https://www.adrive.com/public/HZDrkq/SlideEffects.ts

    | Fri 31 Jan 2014 17:13:51 #22 |
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    grahamlthompson - 1 hour ago  » 
    I had no issues at all once I rotated it. Have you downloaded your original (now rotated) from the link I posted ?
    In addition stick this short video onto a usb stick and play it back on your box.
    https://www.adrive.com/public/HZDrkq/SlideEffects.ts

    No I went back to the original image on my computer file for the tests.
    The pure fact is, I think, that the HDR does not show Portrait pictures correctly.
    Luke appears to have this opinion as well.
    I would just like to know why.
    Thanks for your short video it's very good.

    | Fri 31 Jan 2014 19:12:14 #23 |
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    johnooooo - 36 minutes ago  » 

    grahamlthompson - 1 hour ago  » 
    I had no issues at all once I rotated it. Have you downloaded your original (now rotated) from the link I posted ?
    In addition stick this short video onto a usb stick and play it back on your box.
    https://www.adrive.com/public/HZDrkq/SlideEffects.ts

    No I went back to the original image on my computer file for the tests.
    The pure fact is, I think, that the HDR does not show Portrait pictures correctly.
    Luke appears to have this opinion as well.
    I would just like to know why.
    Thanks for your short video it's very good.

    It does display portrait files, download the compressed zip file I posted, copy your original file from the archive (which is untouched apart from the rotation) and copy it to a usb stick. Now view it on your box.

    Luke did not have this opinion either. If you really want me to I can photograph your original image untouched in portrait format using a HDR FOX T2., or upload it as one off so you can download it.

    All I did was create a folder on my PC from the start/explore option and right click at the folder level, I wanted to create the new folder. Copied your file to it from my default download folder (as the screen grab I posted). Open the new folder (start/explore) right click on the portrait image and apply the rotate. I then copied from this folder to a usb stick, the resulting image was correctly orientated.

    I suspect your problem is lack of familiarity with Windows.

    | Fri 31 Jan 2014 20:03:06 #24 |
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    Download this file, copy as is to a usb stick and view it using your HDR FOX T2.

    https://www.adrive.com/public/2nxDMs/DSC02842.JPG

    Is it the right way up ?

    All I did was copy your file to a different folder, locate the image in the folder (start/explore) and right click to correct the orientation. I just uploaded the same file without any other steps (Had you downloaded the original file within the zip archive, windows can open multiple files within a compressed archive natively, you should have had the same result).

    If it's not the right way up then baffled.

    | Fri 31 Jan 2014 20:22:27 #25 |
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    Graham, Yes I agree it is the right way up.
    Also I agree that the problem could be that I am not totally up with windows.
    When I plug my camera into the computer to download pictures it all happens automatically.
    Tomorrow if I have time I am going to take some test pictures & do a download onto the computer & see if I can find where I am going wrong.

    | Fri 31 Jan 2014 22:18:00 #26 |
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    Does your camera have a SD card onto which you save your photographs. Does your computer have a card reader slot for a SD card ?

    | Sat 1 Feb 2014 9:40:48 #27 |
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    johnooooo - 16 hours ago  » 
    The pure fact is, I think, that the HDR does not show Portrait pictures correctly.
    Luke appears to have this opinion as well.

    The HDR can show portrait jpeg but the underlying picture has to be portrait. The cause of the issue is that the camera puts everything in landscape and then adds a tag to say "Oh by the way when you display this picture it will need to be rotated". The HDR does not take any notice of that tag. And neither does Graham's or my version of Windows Photo Viewer.

    I've tried rotating the 'portrait' picture with Windows Photo Viewer and my version does change the underlying picture to portrait, and it also sets the display tag to 'no rotation or flipping'. My HDRs does then display it as portrait.

    If I rotate it back again using Windows Photo Viewer it changes the underlying picture back to landscape but keeps the tag as 'no rotation or flipping'.

    johnooooo - 22 hours ago  » 
    The Landscape item when I turned it through 90 degrees on the computer & saved to a USB still showed in the correct manner.

    That indicates that whatever you are using to rotate the picture changed the tag but not the underlying picture.

    Wikipedia still seems to think that “The Windows Photo Viewer does not honor the EXIF orientation info in an image file while displaying”. I suspect that it is not Windows Photo Viewer that you are using to view and rotate but some other app E.g. Picasa.

    | Sat 1 Feb 2014 12:04:57 #28 |
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    Luke/Graham,
    With your great help I think the problem is solved.
    I went into Windows Photoviewer & rotated all Portrait pictures 90 degrees clockwise.
    If you then download these to a USB & show on a HDR the problem still exists.
    But:-
    If you then go back into Photoviwer & rotate the Portrait pictures to their original orientation, then download to a USB when shown on a HDR they show the correct way up.
    Think that's it
    Many thanks for all of the help

    | Sat 1 Feb 2014 13:54:00 #29 |
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    I am glad to hear that you have got it to work for you.

    I was a bit surprised that Windows Photo Viewer always resets the Exif flag.
    There are also some Photo management applications that will automatically rejig the photos when you load them on to a PC so that devices like the HDR will always work.
    E.g. http://www.impulseadventure.com/photo/flow-import-dlpro.html
    Page down that link to the section titled "EXIF Orientation and Downloader Pro"

    I had a look at the documentation for both of the Sony photo management suites associated with your camera but couldn't find anything that would do it automatically using the Sony software.

    | Sat 1 Feb 2014 16:07:20 #30 |

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