When I used XP I used to use the Sony Cybershot software, but have found (to my cost) that the latest version sets up a "MODD" file for every picture & this destroyed my sequence on the computer, hence I had to get rid of 14k of them.
So now I use the Windows 7 app.
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Showing Photos on HDR Fox T2
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| Sat 1 Feb 2014 16:24:50 #31 |
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A Google search of "auto rotate photos software" reveals a lot of standalone utilities to automatically recognise and process potential problematic jpegs without having to identify and manually rotate each one yourself.
Goodness knows which one is virus free and gives the best results.| Sat 1 Feb 2014 16:27:01 #32 | -
Great news, another video for you to try.
| Sat 1 Feb 2014 18:13:20 #33 | -
Thanks, another, perhaps, interesting point is that I asked my neighbour, who is a "Computer Consultant" if he knew the solution to the problem.
Answer, "I'll think about that"
So the forum & the experts are a real help.
Also note the solution also cured the problem of pictures shown from a CD on a CD player.
So many thanks again, it's been a good weekend!| Sun 2 Feb 2014 11:38:16 #34 | -
I think what this demonstrates is that the HDR Fox T2 is a poor photo viewer. Rotating the actual image data like this re-encodes it as a JPEG and image quality is lost. I will not do that. Exif tags were invented for a reason and should be honoured.
| Sun 2 Feb 2014 13:15:38 #35 | -
Owen Smith - 8 minutes ago »
I think what this demonstrates is that the HDR Fox T2 is a poor photo viewer. Rotating the actual image data like this re-encodes it as a JPEG and image quality is lost. I will not do that. Exif tags were invented for a reason and should be honoured.It does not alter the image pixels. If you compare the two files I used they are identical in size.
Basically I copied the original file from the download folder into a new test folder, leaving the original file untouched.
I then merely opened the test folder in Windows Explorer, right clicked on the thumbnail icon and corrected it's orientation so that the thumbnail was now correctly displayed. I did not save the file at all and the two files are still the same size (no re-compression). Copying the corrected file to usb and displaying on the TV produces a correctly orientated image.
There is however a fault with the image viewer software. A 1920 x 1080 image is not displayed on a FULL-HD display at 1:1 pixel ratio. If you incorporate the same image into a 1920 x 1080 mp4 video file it displays correctly as a full screen image.
In any case the photos are so much larger than the screen and require recoding downwards to display anyway, then any generation detail loss will not be visible.
By far the best way is to crop large landscape jpegs to 16:9 and resample to 1920 x 1080 pixels using a good photo editing package. They load much faster and produce a slicker slide show.
| Sun 2 Feb 2014 13:39:18 #36 | -
The windows rotation used to not be lossless but now days it usually is despite what wikipedia still says on its comparison of photo viewers.
This link is an example of a few I’ve now seen which claim that Windows Photo Viewer is not lossy for a fresh uncropped photo:
http://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/12361/are-windows-photo-viewer-rotations-lossless/12362#12362Windows Photo Viewer does save the transformed image.
After a windows 'right' click rotation yesterday I re-examined the Exif data. It had updated some of the existing details e.g. ExifImageLength, ExifImageWidth and set Orientation to '1' if it wasn't '1' already. It also added some new details e.g. 'CreatorTool' was set to Microsoft Photo Viewer, which would account for the overall file size increase I got.grahamlthompson - 3 hours ago »
There is however a fault with the image viewer software. A 1920 x 1080 image is not displayed on a FULL-HD display at 1:1 pixel ratio.I'd completely forgotten about that!
| Sun 2 Feb 2014 17:19:11 #37 | -
As I started this thread may I make a few comments from a layman's point of view:-
1 Graham & Luke by showing great interest found a way of solving my problem.
2 By doing this I can now watch pictures I have taken via the HDR with all of them in the correct orientation
3 The vast majority of people who use HDRs/CD's to show/view their pictures are just ordinary folk who are showing their holiday "snaps" & memories to friends & relatives who are not interested in pure technical quality, but are interested in seeing views from around the world where they can only aspire to go.
4 I think the quality of the visual image from the Humax HDR is of exceptional quality.
5 So once again thanks to Graham & Luke & I hope this thread has helped other Humax users.| Sun 2 Feb 2014 18:09:58 #38 | -
Luke - 2 hours ago »
The windows rotation used to not be lossless but now days it usually is despite what wikipedia still says on its comparison of photo viewers.
This link is an example of a few I’ve now seen which claim that Windows Photo Viewer is not lossy for a fresh uncropped photo:
http://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/12361/are-windows-photo-viewer-rotations-lossless/12362#12362
Windows Photo Viewer does save the transformed image.
After a windows 'right' click rotation yesterday I re-examined the Exif data. It had updated some of the existing details e.g. ExifImageLength, ExifImageWidth and set Orientation to '1' if it wasn't '1' already. It also added some new details e.g. 'CreatorTool' was set to Microsoft Photo Viewer, which would account for the overall file size increase I got.grahamlthompson - 3 hours ago »
There is however a fault with the image viewer software. A 1920 x 1080 image is not displayed on a FULL-HD display at 1:1 pixel ratio.I'd completely forgotten about that!
At no stage did I open the image file in Microsoft Photo Viewer, the only software I used was Windows (File) Explorer. Start - Computer. Of course the viewer might be actually processing the image in the background. The point is we are not trying to produce large 300ppi photographs but display an image on a relatively low resolution Full-HD display. I can't wait to see what my 24MP DSLR can do when I can afford a 4K display
| Sun 2 Feb 2014 19:37:08 #39 | -
grahamlthompson - 23 minutes ago »
At no stage did I open the image file in Microsoft Photo Viewer, the only software I used was Windows (File) Explorer. Start - Computer. Of course the viewer might be actually processing the image in the background.I also did not open the image and I did not think you had either.
| Sun 2 Feb 2014 20:11:26 #40 |
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