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  1. grahamlthompson

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    REPASSAC - 37 minutes ago  » 
    Single cable mode is a neat idea Graham.
    Steve:
    A HB-1100S would make great second unit to supplement the other unit. At a reasonable price as well.

    If it works

    Humax direct have the HB-1000S refurbished with 12 months warranty at £69.00.

    https://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/refurbished/hb-1000s-94e552.html

    No idea if they will ship to France.

    | Sun 30 Jul 2017 15:36:40 #21 |
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    Thanks guys, you've both been extremely helpful and I'm very happy that we now have a box that we can use to a large extent.
    I've done as Graham suggested and at the moment am recording 104 - Channel 4, the Grand Prix.
    As the recording was about to start a conflict message came up..so we scrolled through channels and some were 'scrambled or unavailable'....a lot are there though...so....
    Am I correct in thinking that as a planned recording is about to start that will take precedent over the channel we happen to be watching if it is on a different polarisation? If both on same polarisation we would just carry on with no conflict?
    I'll have a think about utilising the other feed...I guess another single PVR used just to record about everything we want might be a way to go, the 1100 used to view live and record as well...food for thought and thanks for the heads up.
    Steve

    | Sun 30 Jul 2017 16:32:41 #22 |
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    fatscoleymo - 16 minutes ago  » 
    Thanks guys, you've both been extremely helpful and I'm very happy that we now have a box that we can use to a large extent.
    I've done as Graham suggested and at the moment am recording 104 - Channel 4, the Grand Prix.
    As the recording was about to start a conflict message came up..so we scrolled through channels and some were 'scrambled or unavailable'....a lot are there though...so....
    Am I correct in thinking that as a planned recording is about to start that will take precedent over the channel we happen to be watching if it is on a different polarisation? If both on same polarisation we would just carry on with no conflict?
    I'll have a think about utilising the other feed...I guess another single PVR used just to record about everything we want might be a way to go, the 1100 used to view live and record as well...food for thought and thanks for the heads up.
    Steve

    Yes if you are watching a channel that conflicts with the next recording you will get the message warning you that the box needs to change channel to make the recording. You should not get this warning at all if the current channel can be viewed during the recording. This also happens with two good tuners and two feeds, often as a result of a short over-run of an existing recording overlapping the start of the second.

    A HB-1000/1100S would give you more capability than you had with the fully working 1100S. Namely recording 3 at once and extending channel choice for 3rd viewing.

    It's looking good though a tad worried about your conflict, without knowing which channel you were watching and which was about to record can't say if it should have worked.

    Do you have a PC running Microsoft OFfice (Excel to be precise) ?

    A couple of tests to make sure it's working as it should.

    Test single cable working recording from two different transponders

    tap 952 to watch BBC 1 E Mids (10788 V) Tap record button
    tap 102 to watch BBC2 HD (10847 V) Tap record button

    tap 201 to watch BBC Parliament, after 20 sec or so check live pause works

    Repeat for the following

    703 BBC Radio 3
    704 BBC Radio 4 FM
    707 BBC 6Music
    708 BBC Radio 4 Ex
    710 BBC Radio 4 LW
    711 BBC World Sv
    712 BBC R Scotland
    713 BBC RnGaidheal
    714 BBC R Wales
    715 BBC R Cymru
    716 BBC R Ulster
    717 BBCRadioFoyle
    953 BBC One East E
    963 BBC One W Mid
    964 BBC One Wales
    967 BBC One Yk&Li
    971 BBC Two Wales
    600 CBBC HD
    972 BBC One HD
    978 BBC One NI HD

    Stop all recording.

    Following records two from one transponder (only requires tuner 1), this means all channels in same band and same polarisation can be viewed, hence the long list.

    tap 102 to watch BBC 2 HD (10847 V) start a recording06
    tap 106 to watch BBC 1 HD (10847 V) start a recording

    The following should be viewable (note for 111 it will require you have one of the listed regions at 111) Note you may want to consider changing postcode to make one of these available
    For 103 it requires you have a vertical polarised ITV 1 as listed.

    121 Channel 4 + 1
    122 E4
    123 E4 + 1
    124 More4
    975 Channel 4 + 1
    103 ITV London
    103 ITV Granada
    103 ITV Anglia East
    103 ITV Central West
    113 ITV2
    117 ITV4
    118 ITVBe
    154 ITV4+1
    602 CITV
    977 ITV London
    201 BBC Parliament
    703 BBC Radio 3
    704 BBC Radio 4 FM
    707 BBC 6Music
    708 BBC Radio 4 Ex
    710 BBC Radio 4 LW
    711 BBC World Sv
    712 BBC R Scotland
    713 BBC RnGaidheal
    714 BBC R Wales
    715 BBC R Cymru
    716 BBC R Ulster
    717 BBCRadioFoyle
    952 BBC One E Mid
    953 BBC One East E
    963 BBC One W Mid
    964 BBC One Wales
    967 BBC One Yk&Li
    971 BBC Two Wales
    212 BBC NEWS
    607 CBBC
    957 BBC One NI
    958 BBC One Oxford
    961 BBC One South
    962 BBC One S West
    969 BBC Two NI
    600 CBBC HD
    972 BBC One HD
    978 BBC One NI HD
    115 ITV3
    116 ITV3+1
    731 talkSPORT
    112 STV East + 1
    112 ITV Granada + 1
    111 ITV London HD
    111 ITV Granada HD
    111 ITV Meridian South HD
    111 ITV Central West HD
    111 ITV HD Anglia East
    111 ITV HD Yorkshire West
    127 4seven
    206 RT HD
    209 NHK WORLD HD
    214 Arirang TV
    692 Revelation
    694 GOD Channel
    142 True Ent
    152 True Ent+ 1
    154 true ent
    302 True Movies
    303 True Movies +1
    500 Chart Show TV
    501 The Vault
    502 ChartShow Hits
    504 Starz TV
    603 POP
    605 Tiny Pop
    604 Kix
    606 POP +1
    609 Tiny Pop +1
    134 CBS Drama
    136 CBS Reality +1
    139 horror ch+1
    135 CBS Reality
    137 CBS Action
    138 horror channel
    693 ISLAM CHANNEL
    695 Sonlife TV
    809 TJC
    143 True Crime
    148 Food Network
    149 Food Network+1
    155 PBS America
    156 YourTV
    167 QUEST
    169 QUEST RED
    205 France 24
    811 Craft Extra
    870 BABESTATION
    210 CNBC
    306 TalkingPics TV
    806 JML Direct
    818 BEST DIRECT
    161 SHOWCASE
    695 Sonlife TV
    809 TJC
    815 Thane
    790 TWR
    511 VIVA

    | Sun 30 Jul 2017 16:54:25 #23 |
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    Graham...genius...all tests worked as you suggested...2 simultaneous recordings and viewing a 3rd channel from 1 feed.....would not have believed that was possible...

    I don't have a PC with Excell..I noted from the other thread you pointed me at that you have a clever use for it to 'sort out' planned recordings etc...maybe it's something I should get..

    In the meantime we will see how we go along, then decide if we will get an HB-1000 to run alongside the HD-1100S.

    Thank you for the time and detail you have taken to track down the problem and find a workable solution for me...very kind of you.

    What a great forum..

    Thanks again guys,

    Steve

    | Sun 30 Jul 2017 18:35:34 #24 |
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    Hi Steve. You don't need Excel if you download the .htm file at the link I posted. This can be opened by any web browser using the File open option.

    Really pleased it worked out.

    If you are confused by the explanation I can help if you download the actual file and open it in the web browser of your choice.

    | Sun 30 Jul 2017 19:44:04 #25 |
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    Any help would be appreciated newcomer to the Humax freesat box had a Manhatten before.
    Just bought a Humax 1100s 2 weeks ago set it up and running perfect.
    On friday my partner tried putting Cbeebies on for our little girl and it said weak or signal problem and the channel would not come on
    So i checked the signal info and it said good signal on both tuners.
    Thought it might be a one off but Cbeebies now wont come on it says 'the receiver is not receiving a signal or the signal is too weak.
    So i tried a factory reset and still no joy and i also tried doing a manual channel search it finds the channels but says the signal is too weak.
    I have also cut the 2 sat cables and redone them from scratch and still no luck.
    Now we also dont have channel 4 or channel 5 etc
    I thought it might be the dish but ive plugged our old box the Manhatten freesat recorder in and all the channels come on and the signal on both tuners looks fine.
    Any help would be greatly appreciated

    | Sun 30 Jul 2017 20:55:51 #1 |
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    juggy9999 - 11 hours ago  » 
    Any help would be appreciated newcomer to the Humax freesat box had a Manhatten before.
    Just bought a Humax 1100s 2 weeks ago set it up and running perfect.
    On friday my partner tried putting Cbeebies on for our little girl and it said weak or signal problem and the channel would not come on
    So i checked the signal info and it said good signal on both tuners.
    Thought it might be a one off but Cbeebies now wont come on it says 'the receiver is not receiving a signal or the signal is too weak.
    So i tried a factory reset and still no joy and i also tried doing a manual channel search it finds the channels but says the signal is too weak.
    I have also cut the 2 sat cables and redone them from scratch and still no luck.
    Now we also dont have channel 4 or channel 5 etc
    I thought it might be the dish but ive plugged our old box the Manhatten freesat recorder in and all the channels come on and the signal on both tuners looks fine.
    Any help would be greatly appreciated

    Hi welcome to our forum. As the box is new I would contact the retailer you bought it from and get it replaced.

    | Mon 31 Jul 2017 8:15:14 #27 |
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    ok thanks that was my original thought but didn't want to look stupid if it was something that could be resolved on here.
    And It was looking at the wrong transponder

    | Mon 31 Jul 2017 10:34:44 #28 |
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    Looking at your list in the above it looks like it is not picking up some of the transponders. I did a STB search for channels and it found about 333 tv channels. Do you think it is definitely faulty?

    | Mon 31 Jul 2017 10:40:07 #29 |
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    juggy9999 - 1 hour ago  » 
    Looking at your list in the above it looks like it is not picking up some of the transponders. I did a STB search for channels and it found about 333 tv channels. Do you think it is definitely faulty?

    Definetely missing some transponders if you did a full fta scan of all FTA channels at 28.2E. Current count is near 400.

    http://en.kingofsat.net/tv.php?&pos=28.2E&standard=All&ordre=freq&filtre=Clear

    Download this file and open it in a web browswer

    https://www.adrive.com/public/t3jBkt/FoxsatStaticMK2_011.htm

    In freesat mode check one channel from each transponder. With a bit of luck may spot a pattern. It could be a power supply issue which for instance could mean you aren't getting horizontally polarised channels. The fact that your other sat box works kind of confirms it must be faulty.

    | Mon 31 Jul 2017 12:12:58 #30 |

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