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What do people think of the Manhatten T4-R

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    I;ve tried uploading a screenshot, but I can't seem to get it down to less than 1MB so the site won't upload it

    | Tue 9 Jul 2024 10:15:25 #31 |
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    Having another try. JPG file less than 1MB. Showing by the Browse button
    When I hit Upload, I get a popup saying I have to select some content

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    Hi thanks, I did contact manhatton yesterday and they sent Sd and HD screenshots. They said you can zoom menus but can't enlarge subtitles though he did say they are larger on sd and smaller on HD

    | Tue 9 Jul 2024 10:59:41 #33 |
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    I bought the T4-R Manhattan. Some programs the record light doesn’t show you think it’s not recording ITV2 doesn’t show the white record light for some reason. It’s only got two tuners like the T3-R .. it’s not long had an update because it was failing to record from standby in the middle of the night. All the recorders are as bad as each other I think they’re all rubbish.

    | Thu 25 Jul 2024 21:24:26 #34 |
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    Knightore - 13 hours ago  » 
    I bought the T4-R Manhattan. Some programs the record light doesn’t show you think it’s not recording ITV2 doesn’t show the white record light for some reason. It’s only got two tuners like the T3-R .. it’s not long had an update because it was failing to record from standby in the middle of the night. All the recorders are as bad as each other I think they’re all rubbish.

    You obviously haven't tried Panasonic, got the odd quirk admittedly but just about rock solid reliable for what most people want, recording programmes to watch later.

    | Fri 26 Jul 2024 11:11:55 #35 |
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    Knightore - 13 hours ago  » 
    I bought the T4-R Manhattan. Some programs the record light doesn’t show you think it’s not recording ITV2 doesn’t show the white record light for some reason. It’s only got two tuners like the T3-R .. it’s not long had an update because it was failing to record from standby in the middle of the night. All the recorders are as bad as each other I think they’re all rubbish.

    Hi Knightore,

    I own a Manhattan T3-R and it's similar to the newer model in most aspects. I can understand your frustration with recordings, but after doing some work with YOUVIEW as a trialist + also visiting their headquarters in London for a training day, I learnt a lot about the product design and more importantly the broadcaster data & the user data from pvr. The main problem is the CRID data that is updated, keyed in by someone at each tv company to be provided for the pvrs. So, most of the time, problem isn't always the pvr box. Yes, true, you have to sometimes reset, reinstall firmware etc, but often there's a bug from broadcast data.

    Maybe I have more patience? I Have LOADS of pvrs around home & when something is not right, I fix it! I don't spend time debating if I "might" fix it in days, weeks, etc. I want a solution asap & most of the time, pvr is springing back into action. If you have a issue with recording, often if you do a full retune, it not only retunes channels, but cleans up data on epg. But you then need the time to rekey in schedules.

    All my pvrs are working brilliantly most of the time: Freeview from Humax, Panasonic, Manhattan, Youview and various Freesat pvrs. I love the pvr technology.
    None of the pvrs do everything in one box. They all seem to have overlapping features, some are better. The Panasonic allows you to add external HD + also edit/clip recordings, useful for recording long tv shows & you only want to keep 2 minutes of interview.

    The Manhattan pvr is an excellent box. It's got good & bad points. What I have noticed is that if you programme a series. For example all week, when you check other days, it clearly gives you a individual status of if programme is going to be recorded or ignored due to other reasons, but this is not pvr fault & linked to broadcaster error. Hope this helps. But don't give up with your pvr. Lets hope more users don't give in to just streaming! John L

    | Fri 26 Jul 2024 11:17:42 #36 |
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    Update
    Manhattan have just (13 Aug) released version 1.07 of the software.

    Apart from various (what I consider to be non-critical) fixes/enhancements), the problems encountered when the box is in standby in SMART or Sleep modes has been fixed. This also fixes the problem which meant that you couldn't use "Loopback in Standby".

    There is also a feature that allows you to control the T4R over your local network. What this does is display a picture of the T4R remote in a browser on your tablet/phone etc. where the buttons are clickable!! It works, but WHY!!

    I'm having no new problems with the box. Recording only the programs with adverts in and watching the rest on the iPlayer is woring for me, so only having 2 tuners is not an issue

    | Wed 14 Aug 2024 8:05:22 #37 |
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    DaveG1946 - 7 hours ago  » 
    Update
    There is also a feature that allows you to control the T4R over your local network. What this does is display a picture of the T4R remote in a browser on your tablet/phone etc. where the buttons are clickable!! It works, but WHY!!

    Why does it work, or why bother supplying it?

    It works my injecting the same command codes into the main software that the IR sensor and its circuitry does. It doesn't actually use the IR hardware but bypasses that by injecting the same type of commands further down the processing line.

    I've got the same functionality on my HDR-FOX T2 and never had a need for it, although I think I heard of someone who was using while trying to sort out a replacement physical remote. The HDR-FOX T2 version of the LAN remote, (supplied by a 3rd party), also has the ability to record macros. The Humax FOXSAT (launched in 2008) has also a 3rd part plugin to enable similar.

    | Wed 14 Aug 2024 15:24:14 #38 |
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    Have just migrated to a Manhatten T4-R, 1TB to replace my Humax FVP-5000T 500MB which has developed an intermittant fault, fully explained in another recent post in the relevant area.
    Initial impressions/niggles after a weeks usage:

    I like the GUI, very responsive and intuitive, lots of features not found on either of my Humax PVR's.
    Only thing I would change if I could, on the TV guide listing the cursor is static in the centre of the screen and the program listing scrolls up & down, I find this annoying, would prefer the cursor to scroll as per Humax PVR's.
    Ironically, on some of the other T4-R GUI screens this is exactly what happens!

    Find that the IR remote controller is very particular with respect to angle and distance from the box, very much more so than any of my existing IR remote controlled devices, need to be directly in front and relatively close to the box for reliable operation.
    However, I find the "Magic Eye TV Link" works perfectly on all my remote TV's with the IR sensor situated just in front of the box, an important feature for me as I re-transmit the box via a digital modulator to all the house TV's.
    Can't actually see where the IR remote detector is on the box would have expected it to be mounted behind a clear window at the front, doesn't appear to be the case?
    And yes, I have tried a nunber of fresh sets of batteries in the remote!

    Found that a number of recordings failed "weak or no signal" not 100% sure if this was only from S/B, on line or both.
    Used to get this all be it very infrequently with my Humax PVR's, just ignored and the recording always played normally.
    However, with the T4-R can't do that, only option offered is to delete the listing.

    After some research, found that this anomaly is associated with having the "antenna feed through" option selected, my preference is to use this however, with a bit of "loop sequence changing" (I still use my old Humax HDR-1800T as well) was able to disable this.
    The "failed recording" anomaly now appears to be cured, have tested multiple times on both S/B and on line modes with no failures to date.

    Have read that this is a known issue to Manhatten and they were working on a fix, not sure if this was implemented in the last FW revision, would appear not as I'am running the latest FW already?

    Of course, still miss the 3rd tuner, with virtually everything being on line now this option doesn't seem to be a worth while priority with most manufacturers.

    All in all, no regrets to date, time will tell

    | Sat 9 Nov 2024 19:54:56 #39 |
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    Update on my "perceived" remote controller issue, see previous post:
    Manhattan support via e-mail were excellent, in my case dealt with Alex, really prompt and very knowledgable, initially supplied a replacement remote controller and then directly replaced the complete PVR without question, courier collecting the original unit, no cost to myself incurred at any stage, really impressive service.

    However, as it happened, there was no fault with the original PVR or remote, the issue was of my own making!
    As stated previously, I use a HDMI digital modulator which incorporates a "Magic Eye IR Extender", makes remote control of the PVR possible from designated TV's on my home antenna distribution system, this turned out to indirectally be the cause of the issue.

    The room where the PVR, modulator & main TV is situated is adjacent to another room containing a "designated remote control TV" ie., has an IR "Magic Eye" sensor fitted.
    When trying to directly control the PVR the remote IR signal would appear to"leak" through to the remote TV IR sensor also, this is re-transmitted back to the PVR over the "remote control loop" arriving back at the PVR likely fractionally later than the direct remote signal, this causes the sluggish, unpredictable response.
    There had never been any issues with controlling the PVR remotely from any of the designated remote TV points, should have been a pointer to the issue I suppose but it took quite some time before I realised this.

    Would not have thought this was possible, the remote TV IR sensor is by no means in direct "line of sight" to the PVR remote controller, access between rooms through a glass sliding door.
    Solution to the issue, pointed the remote TV IR sensor away from the PVR remote controller when in normal use, ie., turned 90 degrees away from remote source!!

    Something I had not encountered before with my Humax PVR's in the same location, can only quess that the Manhattan remote controllers (2 units tried) somehow produce a stronger and/or less directional IR signal than the Humax units?

    Now very happy with my T4-R and it's good to know that Manhattan support are reliably there should any issues arise during the warranty period.

    | Thu 5 Dec 2024 17:38:02 #40 |

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