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    JamesB - 13 minutes ago  » 

    Reffub - 2 minutes ago  » 
    "Since the box isn't paired, my recording habits can only be aggregated."
    No doubt you have paired it in the past, don't presume un-pairing it will make you anonymous.

    It wouldn't be worth the effort.
    Just out of curiosity, why is it important to you to be able to go through the app to set recordings rather than just picking up the remote control? Is it so you can set recordings while in a different room?

    Personally I think the App is quite good for finding programmes of interest and far easy to navigate, Showcase on the App was much better and I like the "Coming Soon" section to the right if each channel.

    Once I find a programme I want to record I then pick up my 1000s remote to set the recording.

    Are you against a Freesat App being able to record over a private network ?

    | Wed 17 Sep 2014 11:48:17 #21 |
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    -gonzo- - 26 minutes ago  » 

    Reffub - 26 minutes ago  » 
    Luckily I opted out of this Big Brother, NSA type remote record monitoring app when it first came out, personally I don't want to give Freesat the option of collating and possibly selling data on my viewing habits and know doubt allowing some company to follow my every movements via GPS*.
    *Anybody watch Horizon Inside the Dark Web, very interesting programme.
    Putting aside the more sinister aspects of this app and the internet as a whole .
    It's a simple TV STB App, surely users of this app should have the option to easily record Freesat programmes privately over their own Network ?

    At the end of the day doesn't all this info go towards helping us get what we want in a better Freesat service?
    Everyday there seems be the question asked somewhere as to why this or that isn't on Freesat and that Freesat should try harder to get this and that etc.
    So when Freesat go to potential partners/clients and they ask 'So why should we pay to have our product on Freesat?', they now have certain facts and figures to back things up.
    Due to certain user data they've obtained they've since negotiated the deal with Panasonic for both Freesat and Freeview TVs, also it's been reported that some of the broadcasters are keen for freetime to be the driving force behind the next generation of Freeview+ boxes as YouView has turned into a PayTV product for TalkTalk and BT.
    It was only recently it was said the reason Netflix wasn't on freetime boxes due to Freesats user base, now or in the near future they can go back to Netflix and say we've go xx amount of connect boxes & TVs in our customers homes and here's the facts and figures to back it up.

    This has all been very interesting but really all I want to do is use the Freesat app (or another non-remote Freesat app) to set recordings on my Freesat box. (Without needing to pair it)

    It's a good app and I'd like to use it from the comfort of my own sofa to set recordings in the evening. If I'm away on holiday the last thing I'll do is pick up my phone see what I need to record !

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    Are you against a Freesat App being able to record over a private network ?
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    Strange question. Why on earth would I be "against" it?

    My personal view is that Freesat are much more interested in developing Showcase and the app in tandem to improve both the service to the user, as Gonzo has said, and also to improve ad revenue for existing Freesat commercial broadcasters, and encourage all investors, esp. the BBC, to stay on board. If that's what they're aiming for, you may not get a lot of response to your request for unpaired app-recording. But, needless to say, ICBW.

    | Wed 17 Sep 2014 12:00:56 #23 |
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    Thanks glad to see that there are a few users that think this is a good idea.

    And as we probably won't ever get the option for less frequent startups once paired an app that could be used to record over a private network without the need for pairing would probably be quite popular.

    | Wed 17 Sep 2014 12:08:49 #24 |
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    JamesB - 1 hour ago  » 
    To know how well Showcase is driving viewing, Freesat need to know not only what's being recorded through Showcase, but also what's being recorded without the user having consulted Showcase. They do have access to that data, for paired boxes. Why wouldn't they make use of it?
    I agree watched data, if collected at all, would be approximate, based on the assumption that a deleted recording has been watched. So not very useful. I wonder what percentages of programmes get recorded and later deleted without watching. Quite a few, in my case, I must admit!

    It is quite easy for someone with the app to monitor network activity and see exactly what it is doing.

    | Wed 17 Sep 2014 12:55:00 #25 |
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    The following quote has already been posted on this thread.

    “We know that Showcase users are hyper-users of television,” said Freesat’s managing director Emma Scott. “The suggestibility that we provide here, particularly if it’s a wildcard or left-field pick does drive viewing. We’re currently comparing that to algorithmic.”

    Interesting that Freesat are saying they can get Showcase users to watch programmes they wouldn't normally watch by using the power of "suggestibility" (Emma's word not mine, maybe next they'll be trying to hypnotise people). So these "hyper-users of television" and Showcase users can be easily swayed or influenced.

    So is Showcase Freesats top picks of what to watch this week or is it an experiment to see how easily they can manipulate their viewers in to watching something different.

    Probably both.

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    More likely, Emma doesn't know what"suggestibility" means.

    Meanwhile, the competition is concentrating on postcodes.

    http://recombu.com/digital/news/sky-to-start-beaming-targeted-ads-at-your-home-postcode

    | Wed 17 Sep 2014 15:15:54 #27 |
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    Very interesting, yet another way to get people to buy things they don't need.

    I'm all for advertising on TV as it pays the bills. But we record 90% of our programmes so you know what that means and anything we do watch live is on the BBC.

    | Wed 17 Sep 2014 15:37:50 #28 |
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    Likewise, but it seems plenty of people do watch the ads or the broadcasters wouldn't be able to sell the space. And if ads became more interesting again, for example through being relevant to my interests, I'd watch them.

    I can't see postcodes having the power to do that but no doubt for some advertisers it must be attractive.

    | Wed 17 Sep 2014 15:46:57 #29 |
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    Reffub - 3 hours ago  » 
    The following quote has already been posted on this thread.

    “We know that Showcase users are hyper-users of television,” said Freesat’s managing director Emma Scott. “The suggestibility that we provide here, particularly if it’s a wildcard or left-field pick does drive viewing. We’re currently comparing that to algorithmic.”

    Interesting that Freesat are saying they can get Showcase users to watch programmes they wouldn't normally watch by using the power of "suggestibility" (Emma's word not mine, maybe next they'll be trying to hypnotise people). So these "hyper-users of television" and Showcase users can be easily swayed or influenced.
    So is Showcase Freesats top picks of what to watch this week or is it an experiment to see how easily they can manipulate their viewers in to watching something different.
    Probably both.

    Showcase features what they think are quality programmes that may well appeal to viewers. Quite important for a new series that may interest people.

    Not sure why you think this is manipulation, if you tell someone a great new comedy programme is starting on xxxx, with a description I would find this informative.

    | Wed 17 Sep 2014 18:44:48 #30 |

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