Luke - 8 hours ago »
Instead of a live feed of adjustments to the EIT p/f (which is what the AR code in PVRs work off) they appear to be using predictive times.
Please forgive my ignorance but could you explain "predictive times".
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| Sat 2 May 2020 8:25:55 #21 |
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Martin Liddle - 2 hours ago »
Luke - 8 hours ago »
Instead of a live feed of adjustments to the EIT p/f (which is what the AR code in PVRs work off) they appear to be using predictive times.Please forgive my ignorance but could you explain "predictive times".
Sorry, my attempt at a choice the broadcasters have for setting the the EIT p/f start times.
Part of a broadcasters responsibilities is for the programme details for the epg to be passed to Freeview in advance. The broadcaster can do this themselves via their multiplex operator, or via a third party specialist schedule provider. The details need to include both the EPG 7 day schedule and the "now/Next" default details for the EIT p/f.
Up to a few months ago what the broadcasters, or their 3rd part schedule providers, appeared to be doing for all channels was to provide the advanced EIT p/f details that were identical to the EIT 7 day schedule details.The 7 day schedule times are normally adjusted by typically up to 3 minutes to make the guide times easier to be recognised by us, the users of the guide so that the billed time corresponds to one of the 12 numbers on a clock. This billed time isn't the time the programme will actually be broadcast. The AR functionality works off the EIT P/F times. Some broadcaster spend the extra to provide dynamic updating of the EIT p/f. For those channels it does not matter that the default EIT p/f originally supplied is based on the EIT 7 day times, (unless a failure to supply the AR live feed occurs).
For the remaining channels using just a copy of the neat looking EPG 7 day details instead of the real predicted times will always have a very high risk of mis-alignment with the content both when displaying the now/next details and also when recording.What the BBC started to do a few months ago for Radio 4, or perhaps were experimenting with, were supplying EIT p/f times that were likely to be more accurate than using the neat looking times of the 7 day schedule. A few of the times were to the half minute, which is why I first noticed that something different than usual was happening.
| Sat 2 May 2020 11:34:17 #22 | -
I think I'll stick to padding on all channels. Then I know that any cock-ups regarding start/stop times are likely to be my fault. As for series link and some dodgy CRIDs, I've found I have to resort to setting weekly/daily recordings and not use series link on radio. What a mess!
| Sat 2 May 2020 13:27:53 #23 | -
Luke - 3 hours ago »
What the BBC started to do a few months ago for Radio 4, or perhaps were experimenting with, were supplying EIT p/f times that were likely to be more accurate than using the neat looking times of the 7 day schedule. A few of the times were to the half minute, which is why I first noticed that something different than usual was happening.Thank you for a very clear and comprehensive explanation. The FVP is significantly worse than the HDR-FOX T2 in situations where the guide is being updated due to a previous programme overrunning. Could this be because the FVP doesn't check the updated EIT p/f data frequently enough?
| Sat 2 May 2020 15:05:52 #24 |
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