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    Swapped again, back to two cables found, but not before I fixed one of the connectors that was coming loose, just to complicate matters. The test went as before.

    | Sat 29 Sep 2018 16:11:03 #21 |
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    OK - don't want to push things but if another swap says two cables then we would have cracked it.

    | Sat 29 Sep 2018 19:50:30 #22 |
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    I moved the box back, reconnecting the extension cables, so I don't know whether swapped or not. Then I scheduled three recordings, with an overlap, which all succeeded, from standby. But the channel switch test still doesn't work.

    The recordings were on BBC1 HD Scot and BBC4 HD.

    | Sun 30 Sep 2018 11:42:52 #23 |
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    REPASSAC - 23 hours ago  » 
    Graham,
    Any thoughts?
    Your post with channels to check - Can you recheck Movies4Men, I see 11344H (flagged as new change) M4M +1 also flagged as changed (11344V). KingofSat flagged the changes as 27/09/2018.
    RonJF - I would put some tape around one of the feeds.
    Might be worth another cable swap test. Just to see if it again reports 2 feeds.
    Graham, am I correct that Foxsat setup is just checking that both feeds can access the freesat transponder which is Horizonal polarised?

    Not sure how the box checks for two cables, however it would make sense for both tuners to contact the home transponder and download the postcode database data. Guessing it wouldn't then check for a vertical chhannel. Just got home and have booted Foxsat to determine what transponder it reports for (957 using opt +

    957 BBC One NI is vertical 10817 V 22000 5/6 so should be available to second tuner when tuner 1 is using low band horizontal with two cables.

    | Sun 30 Sep 2018 11:45:06 #24 |
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    RobJF - 1 day ago  » 
    I moved the box and managed to eliminate a pair of sat cable extensions then did another reset which found two cables. However, it still fails Graham's test and a scheduled recording failed when the box was in standby but then started when I switched on, just as before.
    I'll try swapping the cables again now.
    Edit: swapped and reset, back to one cable found. Does this make any sense at all?

    Guessing - when you have two cables connected to two lnb outputs both of which works with horizontally polarised transponders the number of cables found is falsely identified as having two working lnb outputs. This would appear to confirm lnb itself is broken.

    Try the following after a two cables found setup.

    This uses tuner 1 to record two channels at the same time thus tuner 2 should be able to access any other transponder in any band and of any polarisation.

    Using Transponder 11023 H

    Move to Channel 200 BBC News HD and press record, move to 973 BBC One Scotland and press record.

    As you are now recording two you can't actually record anything else but all epg channels on your postcode generated epg should be viewable. (though on a G2 box you can live pause any other viewable channel, but not on a Foxsat-HDR, On a G2 box on any third channel viewed from the programme start it can actually be recorded (from the time shift buffer) one one of the two recordings completes by simply pressing the instant record button

    The following channels should all be viewable if they are on your epg due to post code.

    Low Band Horizontal - If they aren't most likely a (£20.00 lnb from e-bay will fix it)

    104 Channel 4
    122 E4 + 1
    125 More4 + 1
    300 Film4
    974 Channel 4
    108 BBC Two Eng
    110 BBC Four
    608 Cbeebies
    950 BBC One Lon
    951 BBC One CI
    954 BBC One East W
    965 BBC One West
    968 BBC Two Eng
    981 BBC RB 1
    109 BBC ALBA
    700 BBC Radio 1
    701 BBC Radio 1X
    702 BBC Radio 2
    705 BBC Radio 5L
    706 BBC Radio 5SX
    709 BBC Asian Net
    735 BBC R Cymru 2
    955 BBC One N West
    956 BBC One NE&C
    959 BBC One S East
    960 BBC One Scot
    966 BBC One Yorks
    970 BBC Two Scot
    112 ITV +1 West
    112 ITV +1 Wales
    112 ITV Anglia East +1
    103 ITV Wales
    103 ITV West
    103 ITV West Country South
    112 ITV +1
    114 ITV2+1
    119 ITVBe+1
    112 ITV West Country + 1
    112 ITV Central West + 1
    112 ITV London + 1
    103 ITV Meridian TV South
    103 ITV Tyne Tees TV North
    103 ITV Yorkshire West
    103 ITV Border
    105 Channel 5 HD
    128 Channel 5 +1
    129 5 USA
    130 5 USA +1
    131 5STAR
    133 My5
    141 5Spike
    112 ITV Tyne Tees
    103 ITV Central East
    103 ITV Border Scotland
    112 ITV Yorkshire TV East +1
    103 ITV Mediian TV North
    103 ITV Anglia TV West
    103 ITV Yorkshire TV East
    107 BBC Four HD
    200 BBC NEWS HD
    601 CBeebies HD
    973 BBC One ScotHD
    976 BBC One Wal HD
    119 ITV HD (Tyne Tees)
    162 BLAZE
    203 Al Jazeera Eng
    516 KEEPITCOUNTRY
    690 Inspiration TV
    807 JewelleryMaker
    140 BET
    304 Movies4Men
    305 Movies4Men+1
    724 Absolute
    726 Absolute 80s
    733 Heart
    786 BFBS Radio
    691 DAYSTAR TV
    120 S4C HD
    139 horror ch+1
    999 freesat info
    801 QVC Beauty
    802 QVC Extra
    803 QVC Style
    211 CGTN
    171 YANGA!
    719 Capital
    720 Capital XTRA
    721 Classic FM
    722 Gold
    723 Radio X
    730 PlanetRock
    732 Smooth RadioUK
    750 RTE Radio 1
    751 RTE 2fm
    752 RTE Lyric fm
    753 RTE RnaG
    805 Gems TV
    814 Jumela UK
    817 Hochanda
    250 Front Runner
    724 Absolute
    726 Absolute 80's
    733 Heart
    734 LBC
    786 BFBS Radio
    691 DAYSTAR TV HD
    207 CNN

    Low Band Vertical

    123 E4 + 1
    124 More4
    301 Film4 + 1
    975 Channel 4 + 1
    103 ITV
    113 ITV2
    117 ITV4
    118 ITVBe
    154 ITV4+1
    602 CITV
    977 ITV London
    103 ITV London
    103 ITV Granada
    103 ITV Anglia East
    103 ITV Central West
    101 BBC One W Mid
    201 BBC Parliament
    703 BBC Radio 3
    704 BBC Radio 4 FM
    707 BBC 6Music
    708 BBC Radio 4 Ex
    710 BBC Radio 4 LW
    711 BBC World Sv
    712 BBC R Scotland
    713 BBC RnGaidheal
    714 BBC R Wales
    715 BBC R Cymru
    716 BBC R Ulster
    717 BBCRadioFoyle
    952 BBC One E Mid
    953 BBC One East E
    963 BBC One W Mid
    964 BBC One Wales
    967 BBC One Yk&Li
    971 BBC Two Wales
    212 BBC NEWS
    607 CBBC
    957 BBC One NI
    958 BBC One Oxford
    961 BBC One South
    962 BBC One S West
    969 BBC Two NI
    102 BBC Two HD
    106 BBC One HD
    600 CBBC HD
    972 BBC One HD
    978 BBC One NI HD
    115 ITV3
    116 ITV3+1
    731 talkSPORT
    112 STV East + 1
    103 STV North
    103 STV Central West
    103 STV Central East
    112 ITV Granada + 1
    103 ITV Channel TV
    111 STV HD
    111 ITV HD
    111 ITV London HD
    111 ITV Granada HD
    111 ITV Meridian South HD
    111 ITV Central West HD
    111 ITV HD Anglia East
    111 ITV HD Yorkshire West
    127 4seven
    206 RT HD
    209 NHKWORLD-JAPAN
    214 Arirang TV
    692 Revelation
    142 True Ent
    143 Sony Crime
    152 True Ent+ 1
    154 true ent
    302 True Movies
    303 True Movies +1
    501 The Vault
    603 POP
    605 Tiny Pop
    604 POP Max
    606 POP +1
    134 CBS Drama
    136 CBS Reality +1
    139 horror ch+1
    135 CBS Reality
    137 CBS Action
    138 horror channel
    156 YourTV
    693 ISLAM CHANNEL
    695 Sonlife TV
    143 Sony Crime 2
    148 Food Network
    149 Food Network+1
    155 PBS America
    167 QUEST HD
    205 FRANCE 24(ENG)
    252 Freesports
    210 CNBC
    215 TRT World
    306 TalkingPics TV
    790 TWR
    694 GOD Channel
    806 JML Direct
    151 Travel Ch +1
    161 CLTV
    171 YANGA!
    213 CHANNELS24
    695 Sonlife TV
    809 TJC
    812 Ideal World
    813 Create & Craft
    208 Bloomberg TV
    691 DAYSTAR TV HD

    High Band Horizontal

    146 Challenge
    147 Challenge +1
    165 Forces TV
    121 Channel 4 + 1
    168 QUEST +1
    169 QUEST RED +1
    170 QUEST RED
    172 QUEST
    506 Heart TV
    507 CAPITAL TV

    High Band Vertical

    157 Dave
    158 Drama
    159 Yesterday
    160 Really
    166 Home
    144 PICK
    145 PICK +1
    202 Sky News
    164 Together

    Notice the small number of high band channels in total

    | Sun 30 Sep 2018 12:25:02 #25 |
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    grahamlthompson - 2 hours ago  » 

    RobJF - 1 day ago  » 
    I moved the box and managed to eliminate a pair of sat cable extensions then did another reset which found two cables. However, it still fails Graham's test and a scheduled recording failed when the box was in standby but then started when I switched on, just as before.
    I'll try swapping the cables again now.
    Edit: swapped and reset, back to one cable found. Does this make any sense at all?

    Guessing - when you have two cables connected to two lnb outputs both of which works with horizontally polarised transponders the number of cables found is falsely identified as having two working lnb outputs. This would appear to confirm lnb itself is broken. …………………………….

    My thoughts were similar - i.e. that at least one LNB port was defective. In view on the small replacement cost of a self fit, I would just buy one.

    | Sun 30 Sep 2018 15:06:01 #26 |
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    OK, I've now confirmed that with cables one way round only one is found, but swapping them gets two.

    With two cables found and recording 973 and 200 I can watch channels from all four groups. (With one found I get "no or bad signal" on all but the first group.)

    Sorry but I haven't been able to follow all of the discussion above, does this mean I need a new LNB or not? (I understand they're cheap but access is a real hassle.)

    | Sun 30 Sep 2018 17:16:31 #27 |
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    RobJF - 4 minutes ago  » 
    OK, I've now confirmed that with cables one way round only one is found, but swapping them gets two.
    With two cables found and recording 973 and 200 I can watch channels from all four groups. (With one found I get "no or bad signal" on all but the first group.)
    Sorry but I haven't been able to follow all of the discussion above, does this mean I need a new LNB or not? (I understand they're cheap but access is a real hassle.)

    On the face of it if you can watch all the suggested channels when recording two from the suggested transponder ( Bear in mind some will missing down to your post code - English ITV regions for instance)
    pick the lowest channel number in each group and cycle up by using the up channel button. Only by checking each can the dish alignment be checked. It's possible a dish alignment issue or an odd lnb fault could be failing some 2nd tuner recordings. If you get all then we can try out recording two from a vertical transponder rather than horizontal.

    I take it you don't have any other connected satellite kit connected like a Sky-HD box or generic FTA box, connected to the two spare outputs you are to likely have on a four output quad lnb ?

    | Sun 30 Sep 2018 17:27:26 #28 |
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    RobJF - Thanks for a most interesting problem to think about. My money is on one LNB port is unable to select V transponders.
    I always keep a spare LNB in my garage as I need a different type for my distribution system and it is only possible to a universal here at over the top prices.

    BTW - Do you use padding (Hopefully not)?

    | Sun 30 Sep 2018 17:41:24 #29 |
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    While recording 200 and 973 I can watch all other channels.

    There's nothing else connected to the LNB.

    I don't use padding.

    | Mon 1 Oct 2018 19:04:09 #30 |

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