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Replace or Repair?

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    Gadgee

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    Just for the sake of completeness, pressing the PAUSE button triggers the message

    "This function does not work while retrieving data from the time shift buffer. Try again in a few seconds"

    Don't know if this is significant.

    | Mon 19 Sep 2016 20:51:23 #11 |
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    Just as a final note on this saga...

    Took the unit to somebody who knows what they are doing, removed the HDD and put it a disk caddy and examined it using a Linux setup.

    The HDD could be read without problem and all the recordings are visible.

    Put the disk back in the Humax and restored a previous version of the O/S (clutching at straws!). That process was done OK but still no recordings showing.

    Called and eventually got through to Humax support who listened to the symptoms and the steps taken and whose opinion is that the problem is a likely motherboard component failure and cost to fix would be at least £100.

    Can't say I am too keen to purchase another Humax and wondered what other brands/types would offer the same type of functionality as the HDR 1000.

    From what I have read, there is not much choice in the Freesat PVR market.

    | Thu 22 Sep 2016 12:02:51 #12 |
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    If you want a device which matches the G2 Freesat Humax boxes then there is no competition available. Manhattan are I think still producing G1 Freesat boxes.

    | Thu 22 Sep 2016 17:17:26 #13 |
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    My advice would be to wait and see or buy a HB-1000S as a second unit and a separate A.V./C.E hard-disk - no problems reported at all.. The HB-1000S is very reasonably priced at under £80 for a single tuner unit. May be a good stopgap unit.

    | Thu 22 Sep 2016 18:55:07 #14 |
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    Thanks for your interest and suggestion.

    My current thinking is to buy a refurbished HDR 1100S and swap it's HDD for the HDD from my faulty unit.

    At least then herself will be able to view the stuff she has stored up for the winter!

    | Thu 22 Sep 2016 20:03:31 #15 |
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    Gadgee - 11 hours ago  » 
    Thanks for your interest and suggestion.
    My current thinking is to buy a refurbished HDR 1100S and swap it's HDD for the HDD from my faulty unit.
    At least then herself will be able to view the stuff she has stored up for the winter!

    Don't think that would work - Normally recordings are encrypted using a unique key to the unit. I don't think anyone has actually tried this on this series of Humax PVR's, my thoughts are based upon previous units.

    | Fri 23 Sep 2016 7:46:44 #16 |
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    I had realised that flaw to the plan after sending so spent some time trying to work out a way I can get the recordings off the old disk and onto the new unit or else copy them onto some media that the new unit can read.

    Have to confess that having read various suggestions and exceptions that I am pretty confused - I plan to call Humax next week and ask for a definitive statement as to whether or not it is possible.

    | Fri 23 Sep 2016 18:21:47 #17 |
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    Gadgee - 19 minutes ago  » 
    I had realised that flaw to the plan after sending so spent some time trying to work out a way I can get the recordings off the old disk and onto the new unit or else copy them onto some media that the new unit can read.
    Have to confess that having read various suggestions and exceptions that I am pretty confused - I plan to call Humax next week and ask for a definitive statement as to whether or not it is possible.

    Basically it is very unlikely. The reason why we don't know is that the recording partition is itself LUKS encrypted.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Unified_Key_Setup

    So the individual files are not accessible. Without the capability to open the video recording folder there is no way of telling if the recording files themselves are encrypted with a unique key to the box (Basically think of it as the recording files are locked in a safe with a Luks key to open it and then requiring a unique key to the box to decrypt the content.

    No one has even been able to decrypt the HD recordings on a first generation Humax Foxsat-HDR let alone open the safe on a G2 box.

    Frankly I guess contacting Humax support is unlikely to help, only talking to the actual engineers in S Korea has any chance of giving a definitive answer. Even if they could there is no way they will divulge the way to do it.

    Think of it as like the FBI trying to get Apple to give them access to a Iphone.

    No idea if a bit for bit disk copying could produce an exact copy of the original HDD, even if it did the unique file encryption key that is likely to be applied would mean a replacement box would not be able to play the files back.

    | Fri 23 Sep 2016 18:55:27 #18 |
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    The same thing's just happened to me. Initially this evening, it said that 57% of the disk was used (even though it said there were no saved recordings) but, after rebooting it once or twice, it said less than 1% was used.

    In the two years I've had it, it's claimed to have lost recordings once or twice before but each time they've reappeared. Judging from comments, it doesn't look so good this time, then?

    | Fri 23 Sep 2016 20:54:18 #19 |
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    Ah well, that didn't last long. I put it on standby and left it (again) but when I went back less than an hour later, it was recording 'Mock the Week' and everything seemed normal.

    Hopefully, it'll stay that way......

    | Fri 23 Sep 2016 21:59:58 #20 |

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