My apologies, it looks like an official Human forum!
I have contacted the broadcasters and they say they are not at fault as all PVR's should have some form of built in timing tolerance to allow for slight over runs etc...
What you are telling me therefore is that the Humax PVR's are a complete waste of money...
Thank you for the link though
Which broadcaster told you that? Never heard such bull! While the Youview box is far from perfect the broadcasters have had years to make the transmission of Accurate Recording signals reliable and cope as it is supposed to with late starts and overruns.
1. Agree with gomezz
2. YouView are responsible for the software in their kit not Humax, indeed other Humax freeview, freesat units include the usual function's one would expect of a PVR.
Gomez, Thanks for your reply.
I received an E-mail direct from UKTV which covers Drama which states:-
In regards to your enquiry Like most channels, we don't send flags to denote exactly when a programme starts and finishes as this would go off the timings on your equipment. We would advise you to use padding to guarantee full recording and a lot of recorders will have this automatically built in or an option to do so.
Each day is timed separately as each individual programme is not exactly the same length, so the billed times we supply are to the closest 5 minutes - the time the programme starts and ends is never exactly the time stated in any programme guide and Ofcom allow every broadcaster to start a programme 2 minutes either side of the stated time. So, for example the programme afterwards is seen on the EPG to start at 1500pm, when in reality its starts at 1502 and the preceding programme finishes at 1500.
The tolerance of the your recording box needs to be adjusted to allow for an extra 2 minutes going forward and you should never miss another second.
Sometimes the case if a recorder is used to record multiple programmes at once, and doesn't use padding, that shows can be cut off from time to time. Although this can be quite common it is not a fault at our side of transmission.
Barry in reply to your message, which Humax PVRs have the padding facility built in. I would like to get this sorted as its really beyond a joke now and quite prepared to purchase a new machine if I can record all a program!
Anything that is not intended for Youview...
Freeview - HDR 1800T, HDR 2000T, or the brand new FVP 4000T
Freesat - HDR 1100S
Any questions ask away, I've got to disappear in a bit for a few hours, but I'm sure other members will be happy to contribute/give opinions.
Barry, many thanks for that - much appreciate your help!
RDG - 2 hours ago »
Gomez, Thanks for your reply.
I received an E-mail direct from UKTV which covers Drama which states:-
In regards to your enquiry Like most channels, we don't send flags to denote exactly when a programme starts and finishes as this would go off the timings on your equipment.
I find that answer weird.
Isn't Really a UKTV channel and that uses the EIT p/f table to 'send' the 'flag' as well as what the EIT p/f was originally designed for?
The more it changes, the more it remains the same.
From four years ago:
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showpost.php?p=55123868&postcount=374
Thank you all for your comments. Decided there was no way we could continue with the Human Youview and purchased the new Human FVP-4000T which as Barry said has changeable padding for both start and finish. Seems to work nicely although the automatic channel programming couldn't find out local BBC1 HD channels. I had to look up the Transmitter site to find which channel they were on and manually search for them. The reason the FVP-4000T couldn't find them was because they are on DVB-2 and not DVB-1 and it would appear the FVP-4000T is programmed to search there! Not an easy one for a non technical person to resolve!
Anyone want a relatively new Human DTR-T1010?..........
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