Well I have just set up my Aura I got for Xmas and have to say I'm not having any of the issues some of you all faced. I am very impressed with the things it can do. It is fast responsive and packed with features. Bit gutted Channelbox does not work but it didn't on my NowTV box that I've upgraded from. Casting NowTV is a breeze and is quicker to load than my now TV box was. All in all it took no more than 10 mins to setup the only bit that caused problem was my androidtv account not linking but it worked when I got a new pin onscreen after a few minutes. Now I just need to have a deeper play about with it but initial impressions have way exceeded what I was expecting after reading some impressions
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| Sat 2 Jan 2021 14:31:13 #568 |
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Clem_Dye - 1 week ago »
How does the Aura handle channel/mux update. It’s not clear to me after reading the user guide.
On my current Panasonic PVR and also my LG and Panasonic TVs, I have auto-channel update (or its equivalent) disabled. The relevant facility, if enabled, must do some sort of auto-tune during the early hours of the morning. Generally, it doesn’t pose a problem, but if there’s any engineering works scheduled overnight, which results in a temporary loss of channels/muxes, when the device auto-tunes it then stores a reduced set of channels. My LG TV is the worst for this — I've lost count of the number of times I found that the TV only had details for a few channels/muxes. By disabling the facility, the issue goes away.
I looked at the Aura’s user guide and I couldn’t see any option to disable automatic channel updates, so I wanted to understand how the box would handle situations where say, for example, engineering works on my local transmitter temporarily took out several muxes which might otherwise be there normally, and the device then auto-tuned.If auto tuning cannot be switched off, then the Aura would be useless to users who, like me, live in an area where my aerial picks up more than one transmitter. The problem is that an auto tune always finds the weaker muxes first and assigns the lower power channels to the primary channel numbers. The 'proper' channels finish up at channels 800+.
| Sun 3 Jan 2021 16:39:50 #569 | -
If you can't find it in the instructions it's probably because it's not there.
If the Aura operates similar to the fvp-4000t and fvp-5000t, it doesn't automatically update when new channels are found. You may get prompted by the broadcaster but, ultimately, the user has to initiate a channel search.
So "auto tuning" as you are describing on your TV, does not occur.| Sun 3 Jan 2021 16:46:00 #570 | -
Geoff_W - 1 hour ago »
Clem_Dye - 1 week ago »
How does the Aura handle channel/mux update. It’s not clear to me after reading the user guide.
On my current Panasonic PVR and also my LG and Panasonic TVs, I have auto-channel update (or its equivalent) disabled. The relevant facility, if enabled, must do some sort of auto-tune during the early hours of the morning. Generally, it doesn’t pose a problem, but if there’s any engineering works scheduled overnight, which results in a temporary loss of channels/muxes, when the device auto-tunes it then stores a reduced set of channels. My LG TV is the worst for this — I've lost count of the number of times I found that the TV only had details for a few channels/muxes. By disabling the facility, the issue goes away.
I looked at the Aura’s user guide and I couldn’t see any option to disable automatic channel updates, so I wanted to understand how the box would handle situations where say, for example, engineering works on my local transmitter temporarily took out several muxes which might otherwise be there normally, and the device then auto-tuned.If auto tuning cannot be switched off, then the Aura would be useless to users who, like me, live in an area where my aerial picks up more than one transmitter. The problem is that an auto tune always finds the weaker muxes first and assigns the lower power channels to the primary channel numbers. The 'proper' channels finish up at channels 800+.
The aura has a manual tune capability. So you can delete all your channels and tune each Mux in turn.
If you temporarily fit an attenuator and set it so the weaker mux are ignored you should be able to do a auto tune.
| Sun 3 Jan 2021 17:59:31 #571 | -
Having to fit attenuators or other bodges shouldn't be necessary. D Book, or whatever it's called, may mandate auto tuning, but if, as, mentioned above, you live in area of transmitter overlap, auto tuning usually makes a complete mess of things. Manual tuning is of absolutely no value in this situation. The software should be written to give the customer the choice of whether to auto tune or not, not foist it upon them, with the attendant consequences that might arise. If I can do that with my Panasonic kit, which includes a seven year old PVR, why not a brand new box released late last year?
I can get TX from Bilsdale, Emily Moor and Belmont where I live in Harrogate, depending on aerial orientation. Even with the aerial pointing to Bilsdale (I don't need a masthead amp. in that scenario), the aerial still picks-up stuff from Belmont which I have to weed out. An attenuator is of no value here, as the muxes are spread far and wide, with Bilsdale and Belmont using the same groupings for some muxes. In theory, an attenuator should weed out the weaker stuff, but in my experience it just doesn't work that well, especially as at least one group Belmont A mux is at approaching the strength that I get from Bilsdale, if atmospheric conditions are good. Even without that, Belmont is still usable for a couple of muxes.
I've emailed Humax about this, but haven't had a response yet. They may not be open until tomorrow, 04/01/21, but I'll call them if I don't get a response in a couple of days.
Right now, the Manhattan T3R looks to be my best bet. It won't auto-tune, just tells you that it needs to be done. If you don't then you run the risk of missing a few channels or getting failed recordings, but that's better than getting nothing at all. I only use a core set of channels, and these seldom move, so unless Humax can offer something by way of a solution, I'll be buying a T3R, as much as I like the sound of the Aura, especially with the extra tuner.
I'll post a further update when/if I get a response from Humax. Manhattan sent me a MP4 video of how the T3R handles the need to auto-tune, if anyone's interested. The file is ~3MB in size, so I can send by email, or upload it somewhere, if anyone has a preferred location.
BTW, I've also asked Humax about the lack of Netflix app., and that the NowTV app. can be installed but won't run. If I get anything there, I'll let you all know. TBH, I'm not expecting much.
| Sun 3 Jan 2021 18:23:55 #572 | -
Clem_Dye - 41 mins ago »
Manual tuning is of absolutely no value in this situation.Why do you think manual tuning is of no value? I have used it on various Humax models over more than ten years and found it an effective workaround to the problem of poor auto tuning implementations.
| Sun 3 Jan 2021 19:07:53 #573 | -
Martin Liddle - 4 hours ago »
Clem_Dye - 41 mins ago »
Manual tuning is of absolutely no value in this situation.Why do you think manual tuning is of no value? I have used it on various Humax models over more than ten years and found it an effective workaround to the problem of poor auto tuning implementations.
I’m not saying that it’s useless. What I am saying is that in areas with overlapping transmitters, it will often make a mess of things. As an example, when Bilsdale was down overnight for engineering last year, my LG TV updated overnight and picked-up just a few channels from Belmont. I had to re-tune the set a second time later in the day. With auto tuning off that type of situation is avoided. Similarly, an auto tune against a single TX that’s down for a period can result in missing services. If it works for you, fine, but for a lot of us it doesn’t. Being able to disable the facility might result in a few missing services if channels do move around, but it’s better than loosing pretty much everything. It’s bad enough if it happens on a TV, but on a PVR, when perhaps you’re away from home, it’s a problem that could be easily negated with the right software.
| Sun 3 Jan 2021 23:57:29 #574 | -
Clem_Dye - 58 mins ago »
Martin Liddle - 4 hours ago »
Clem_Dye - 41 mins ago »
Manual tuning is of absolutely no value in this situation.Why do you think manual tuning is of no value? I have used it on various Humax models over more than ten years and found it an effective workaround to the problem of poor auto tuning implementations.
I’m not saying that it’s useless. What I am saying is that in areas with overlapping transmitters, it will often make a mess of things.
It won't make a mess of things. Manual tuning is when you tune the box to a specific set of multiplex channels; if the transmitter isn't broadcasting then you will have to wait until it is transmitting and then manually tune. It won't make a mess of things though.
| Mon 4 Jan 2021 0:59:11 #575 | -
Does the Aura not offer "smart" option when retuning?
| Mon 4 Jan 2021 8:16:19 #576 |
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