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    JohnH77

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    Biggles

    I did.

    But I also read Fire Statistics Great Britain: 2013 to 2014 to gain a better perspective.

    Pollesnsa's case was one case. The survey looks at every?? reported fire in GB over a 12 month period and is far more appropriate for me.

    | Wed 27 Apr 2016 11:26:54 #51 |
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    JohnH77 - 9 minutes ago  » 
    Biggles
    I did.
    But I also read Fire Statistics Great Britain: 2013 to 2014 to gain a better perspective.
    Pollesnsa's case was one case. The survey looks at every?? reported fire in GB over a 12 month period and is far more appropriate for me.

    It's a no-brainer for me.

    Question - Will I need the microwave while I'm away on holiday.
    Answer - No.

    Question - Is there a risk of a fault causing a fire no matter how small if I leave it ON.
    Answer - Yes.

    Conclusion - Switch OFF microwave.

    I do give it a second thought.

    | Wed 27 Apr 2016 11:41:06 #52 |
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    JohnH77 - 26 minutes ago  » ...a better perspective.
    Pollesnsa's case was one case...

    Perspective will not cut it when your house burns down while sunning yourself in the Med. In the case of my microwave, on returning it to the supplier I learned they were concerned about the number of cases and were working with the manufacturer. The model was subsequently recalled.

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    grahamlthompson - 1 hour ago  » ...a power block using low voltage DC. In this case the output is near certain to be current limited to a value that will restrict the energy available to a level with insufficient energy to generate any significant heat in the block itself...

    So why over the years have there been cases of wall wart power supplies smouldering?
    A case in point...
    http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2066867

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    Any equipment might have this, that or the other circuit protection that probably does a good job while the unit is functioning correctly, but when there is a fault who knows...

    | Wed 27 Apr 2016 12:17:53 #55 |
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    We are in violent agreement ...

    ... but we position our level of acceptable risk at very slightly differernt levels. You don't remove the batteries from your clocks and remote controls, drain the hot water header tank, and drain the petrol from your wife's car in the garage because, even though you won't be using them, you accept the risks.

    My acceptance of risk level is microscopically higher than yours, so I accept the microwave risk, but both your and my levels are vastly lower than the much higher risks we face while away.

    ... and I don't have the risk, while on holiday, of suddenly rermembering "D*mn! I forgot to switch off the microwave" which has the risk of generating a heart attack

    I wonder how long this conversation will be allowed to continue before Barry steps in and slaps us all, deservedly so, on the wrist? In the dim and distant past it began with Kevin3093's comment

    I have a FVP-4000T box and every two days or so when I turn the box on I get a picture but no sound ...

    He may not get any sound, but he has got plenty of heat!

    PS I hope my next burglar is reading this and sees that I left the microwave on for him or her - there's some food in the freezer too, so help yourself if you are peckish - and he or she doesn't feel it necessary trash my house and do unmentionable things to my toothbrush.

    | Wed 27 Apr 2016 12:33:01 #56 |
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    Pollensa1946 - 1 hour ago  » 

    grahamlthompson - 1 hour ago  » ...a power block using low voltage DC. In this case the output is near certain to be current limited to a value that will restrict the energy available to a level with insufficient energy to generate any significant heat in the block itself...

    So why over the years have there been cases of wall wart power supplies smouldering?
    A case in point...
    http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2066867

    Most likely cheap and nasty imports from the far east without the required built in safeguards. As all routers I have ever used have a seperate brick, based on the sheer number in use any fires resulting from properly designed power brick supplies would surely be widely reported. TV's on the other hand are quite often reported as a fire hazard.

    | Wed 27 Apr 2016 13:13:43 #57 |
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    I would always turn off an immersion heater while away on holiday mainly to avoid waste. The PVR would be in standby as I want it to recording when I return.

    Leaving the house I would review the many circuit breakers a french house has (Mine after a quick count has 32 with 3 earth leakage breakers) and. switch off anything that would cost any significant money to leave on.

    | Wed 27 Apr 2016 14:47:27 #58 |
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    Biggles - 6 hours ago  » 

    Faust - 11 hours ago  » 
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    If your products are correctly fuse rated and in good condition why is there a fire hazard.
    .....

    This sort of statement will lead people into a false sense of security. As an example I have had two computer PSU catch fire at work under normal use and both were correctly fused. I have had an LCD projector spectacularly blow a large capacitor in its power supply, also correctly fused. Only the projector blew its fuse and fortunately people were around to pull the plugs.

    If you take this argument to it's logical conclusion then you should have no gas electric or water in your house and take all necessary steps to avoid a lightening strike too.

    It's all about calculated risk and in most cases it's a very very small risk indeed. I'm well aware that some people will claim to have worked in this and that industry for gazzillions of years. However, most are now retired and tech moves at a rate of knots. I would suggest some people are firmly routed in the last century and have not kept up with today's advancements. Gas mantles had their place in time but things move on.

    Turning routers off at night indeed, what tripe I suspect some on here turn their mirrors to the wall when there's a thunderstorm.

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    Faust.
    The point is not whether you should or not do it, but if some people do then the Humax should cope with it.

    | Wed 27 Apr 2016 16:06:33 #60 |

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